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Old 05-29-2012, 11:35 AM   #1
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So I may only be noticing it more but... seems like there have been quite a few offs due to tires recently. I just wanted to get a sense of the consensus on how long someon rides a set of tires. I know its hard to tell since different bikes chew tires different ways.

Right now my SV has 3 TDs on a set of BT003RS... and looking at them they seem to have quite a bit of the tread but I hate to go down because I can't gauge my tire tread properly. Also I realize that in theory the SV is easier on tires than say a 600.

Anyone that can give me insight would be appreciated
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I am not an expert at this tire stuff (as some of you may already know..lol)
But.. people here are going to give you their personal preference!

I would not push my self on street tires.. far as I know.. once they get really hot they become greasy and can loose traction (witch is what happened to Martinez yesterday) and also happened to me a year ago on a set of Q2's

I swaped to Track tires with tire warmers and ran fine for a year, got faster and faster.. Until I took my eyes off them lol.. and you know the rest.
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if you have doubt in your tires and you are getting faster, get tires that
are made for the track, there is no substitute for the confidence you get
when you know your tires are on point. when you have doubts about your tires, its a worry that you dont shake off until you get new rubber.
that is what i have experienced with tires at the track.
trust your tires and that is one less thing to worry about.
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Tires are just a convient thing to blame crashes on. There really aren't that many crashes due to the tire alone, it's usually rider error
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How old are your tires? Check the production date. What pressures are you running? What are you experiencing to make you think tires?
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I haven't had any close calls or anything. I haven't felt any slipping or anything.. Tires are in good shape... and I run the recommended 29 psi front and 27 psi back cold check pressure for the BT003RS. Grip is great and I don't feel like it is getting away from me... but I just don't wanna have inexperience bite me in the when it could have been avoided. Figured I would get some different viewpoints... I figured I would get at least 2 more trackdays out of these before they hit street duty as takeoffs...
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I've run an entire TD season on the same set of BT-003RSs on my old motard and never had a problem with them slipping or acting up in any way. those same tires also had the ocassional run on the street between track days. 003RSs are pretty solid tires, IMHO.

having said that, I probably wouldn't do that again. it's a data point to consider, though.
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I haven't had any close calls or anything. I haven't felt any slipping or anything.. Tires are in good shape... and I run the recommended 29 psi front and 27 psi back cold check pressure for the BT003RS. Grip is great and I don't feel like it is getting away from me... but I just don't wanna have inexperience bite me in the when it could have been avoided. Figured I would get some different viewpoints... I figured I would get at least 2 more trackdays out of these before they hit street duty as takeoffs...

another day or two would be the limit, a set of sticky rubber is cheaper than a crash.
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another day or two would be the limit, a set of sticky rubber is cheaper than a crash.
yes, it is!!
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another day or two would be the limit, a set of sticky rubber is cheaper than a crash.
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I would not push my self on street tires.. far as I know.. once they get really hot they become greasy and can loose traction (witch is what happened to Martinez yesterday) and also happened to me a year ago on a set of Q2's
If your tires get hot and greasy then you are running the wrong tire pressure. If you are told what pressure to run that is a baseline not the final answer. Jason Pridmore and his instructors at TWS (Texas World Speedway) last week were running sub 2 mins on Q'2 with zero issues.
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You sure about that?? Are you a tire expert now? "Street tires" are not made to get up to the same temperatures as "track tires", therefore have different materials and abilities.
i like it when you talk tires like that, you dirty dirty girl.
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you should get about 3 yrs out of those tires, SV and all!
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You sure about that?? Are you a tire expert now? "Street tires" are not made to get up to the same temperatures as "track tires", therefore have different materials and abilities.
Sorry to say this but you are way mistaken in what you are trying to say, street tires are not designed to work at the same temps as race tires but you can adjust the pressures so they don't heat up as much and work within their desired temps.
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you should get about 3 yrs out of those tires, SV and all!
Ha the tires might outlast the SV!
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There is a body of evidence that suggests that, if you truly want to be fast, learning to slide a little bit on a set of shagged tires helps.

That being said I could get roughly 15 trackdays out of a set of BT003RS tires on a gsxr 600 at high novice/low intermediate pace. The faster your pace, the quicker you'll chew through the same tire.

Me personally, I swap tires when they're either affecting my confidence or I hit the wear bars.
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That being said I could get roughly 15 trackdays out of a set of BT003RS tires on a gsxr 600 at high novice/low intermediate pace. The faster your pace, the quicker you'll chew through the same tire.
are we talking about THE BT003's?!?!?


Christ! back when i ran 'Stones they were death traps after 3 TD's.....

, even on GP's i cant get over 5 TDs..




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I kept a set of BT-003RS's around novice for about 8TD's (GSS).
Moved to intermediate (GSS / MSRH) and ran a set of Power Pures for 6-7TDs and toasted them.
Burned thru a set of Power Ones in two TDs @ MSRH
Now I'm onto SBK Pro's. 3rd TD on them with lots of life left.
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Keep the info coming guys... I am liking the discussion and learning a little bit. So if I have a base cold tire pressure and am getting more than 6 - 8 psi at hot temperature then my tires are underinflated right?
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