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Old 01-05-2007, 03:11 PM   #21
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Old 01-05-2007, 03:14 PM   #22
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Old 01-05-2007, 03:48 PM   #23
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Old 01-05-2007, 04:48 PM   #24
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Old 01-05-2007, 09:43 PM   #25
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Is it just me or do a large # of the people who spend yrs. in school to get all these degrees not apply them to the job or jobs they end up with. I work with alot of people from a trade school or schools that seem to go to school just to have something to do with no real plans on what they are going to do after they get out of school. Why bother? I think education is great, but for alot of skills out there it is so over rated. For those who go to school for ever for a degree and apply that to recieve the pot of gold at the other end awesome. But for those who waste years in school to later become a worths POS and someone elses responsability because all they know how to do is go to school shame on you "I see this way mor often unfortunatly"
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Is it just me or do a large # of the people who spend yrs. in school to get all these degrees not apply them to the job or jobs they end up with. I work with alot of people from a trade school or schools that seem to go to school just to have something to do with no real plans on what they are going to do after they get out of school. Why bother? I think education is great, but for alot of skills out there it is so over rated. For those who go to school for ever for a degree and apply that to recieve the pot of gold at the other end awesome. But for those who waste years in school to later become a worths POS and someone elses responsability because all they know how to do is go to school shame on you "I see this way mor often unfortunatly"
Just my 2 cents
Yep I see your point.
It's true that some people are like that. But how many people are worthless that don't have a degree? I think worthless people are worthless regardless of their education. But an education is invaluable in my eyes. And a lot of degrees are useless. But, the experience of obtaining the degree teaches people a lot about critical thinking, problem solving, how the world/society works, discipline, time management, etc etc. It's not all useless. My old Freshman English I teacher taught us to write papers based on our personal analysis of our opinions on various topics. It made us understand why we believe what we do, and in some cases it made us realize we're wrong in some things we think. Do I remember anything about English or how to write correctly? no! But I now look at things a lot different because of that class. To me, that's just as valuable a lesson as the class topic itself. Yeah math seems useless, but it teaches students multiple ways of coming up with an answer. That principle is applied elsewhere in life. AANNNDDD I fear this thread is useless too. :laughing6:laughing6 oh well.

I believe every person should obtain a degree and experience college. Not everyone is able to though. :confused1 Just my two cents.

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Is it just me or do a large # of the people who spend yrs. in school to get all these degrees not apply them to the job or jobs they end up with. I work with alot of people from a trade school or schools that seem to go to school just to have something to do with no real plans on what they are going to do after they get out of school. Why bother? I think education is great, but for alot of skills out there it is so over rated. For those who go to school for ever for a degree and apply that to recieve the pot of gold at the other end awesome. But for those who waste years in school to later become a worths POS and someone elses responsability because all they know how to do is go to school shame on you "I see this way mor often unfortunatly"
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True...not all people go into the field of what it was they actually studied in college unless it's specific, i.e. doctor or engineer or something like that. I have found that a lot of people in the support functions of my "field" do not have degrees that specificially relate to the profession (like me!). However, it seems that in order to get your foot in the door of good companies these days you pretty much need to have a degree in SOMETHING. Anything...even it if is a degree in basket-weaving. I guess having completed a degree shows that you are motivated and at least have some sort of skills that you can apply to the job/career.

Oh, and getting an education is a pricey endeavor. I highly suggest mooching off parents (I didn't get to) if you can. Otherwise student loans will eat you up or you will spend 20 years going part-time :eh: :BangHead:
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Is it just me or do a large # of the people who spend yrs. in school to get all these degrees not apply them to the job or jobs they end up with. I work with alot of people from a trade school or schools that seem to go to school just to have something to do with no real plans on what they are going to do after they get out of school. Why bother? I think education is great, but for alot of skills out there it is so over rated. For those who go to school for ever for a degree and apply that to recieve the pot of gold at the other end awesome. But for those who waste years in school to later become a worths POS and someone elses responsability because all they know how to do is go to school shame on you "I see this way mor often unfortunatly"
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For many people, the experience of going away to college is as much a learning experience as the academic side of things. People find out who they are, and broaden their "world view" by interacting with different people. That said, if you spend 100k+ on school and come back home and dont have a decent job, you essentially wasted your time.
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Old 01-07-2007, 08:24 PM   #31
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And a lot of degrees are useless. But, the experience of obtaining the degree teaches people a lot about critical thinking, problem solving, how the world/society works, discipline, time management, etc etc. It's not all useless. My old Freshman English I teacher taught us to write papers based on our personal analysis of our opinions on various topics. It made us understand why we believe what we do, and in some cases it made us realize we're wrong in some things we think. Do I remember anything about English or how to write correctly? no! But I now look at things a lot different because of that class. To me, that's just as valuable a lesson as the class topic itself.
Ahhh Mulatto, you’ve warmed the cockles of my crusty little teachin’ heart. I’m glad you had the chance to experience an instructor who understood the incredible potential of the English classroom. I also work to get my guys to “think about what they think about and to know why they think what they do.” Otherwise, all unexamined ideas are simply decisions made by others. I’m often irritated—angered really--by English instructors who are high-centered on the grammatical and mechanical aspects of writing. There’s nothing worse than a purportedly educated individual writing with all the slickness of Strunk and White but without a thought or original idea to write about. Unfortunately, too much focus is placed on simplistic composition without any understanding of rhetoric. I just love it when students who are assigned the 750 word argumentative paper insist on writing about issues that simply defy neat and tidy resolution. They never quite grasp--or refuse to accept--how ridiculous it is to grapple with, and presume to solve, some of our nastiest social and moral puzzles in the space of a few pages.

I tried to avoid this thread because it represents a Pandora’s Box for me. I erased about a page of unrestrained rant. Be thankful--there’s nothing worse than rabid, pre-semester, bitter instructor vitriol.


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Do I remember anything about English or how to write correctly? no! But I now look at things a lot different because of that class.
Oh, and Mulatto--you must remember something because you didn't write "alot." Gawdddddddddddd I hate that damned nonword!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :BangHead:
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Okay. . . it's an hour later, and I realize how awful my post is. I feel the need to qualify the last bit since it seems to slide more towards a stab at students. My issue really is with educational philosophy and some educators. I don't want what I've written to be discouraging to any current or potential students-that's not what I'm about.

Teaching is just. . .glorious suckage. :eh: Slap and tickle. . .if that can be bent just a little for my current purposes of explanation. I'm just up in arms this morning because I gotta put on the mask, go in and make nicey nicey with administrators who want me to increase retention and the quality of instruction: numbers that are, by nature, inversely proportionate. Gotta be Mrs. Instructor, pusher of doggerel and champion of the articulately superficial. Piteous I. Woe is me.

I'd much rather ride my new little fiddy and become intimate with the pavement some more! :icon_bigg Sigh. Vacation is over.
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