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Old 01-03-2007, 11:44 PM   #21
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Arai is still great helmet. Check this out.

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Old 01-03-2007, 11:45 PM   #22
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:17 AM   #25
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chu don need to stinkin helmet.............
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:23 AM   #26
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Some of you guys like Arai too much. It failed a test, period. It wasn't a pop quiz, the DOT standard has been the same for 30 years. Arai knew about the test, put a DOT sticker on their helmet, and it didn't pass. Who cares if it was just one helmet? They only tested 4 helmets. I don't like those odds.

"Arai is different. Arai designs the best helmet we can for comfort, fit, and a host of other criteria. Then we submit it for safety standards acceptance (which we pass with room to spare)"

http://www.araiamericas.com/What_is_Arai.html

Guess not.

And before I get attacked personally, I spend more on gear than 99% of people, and I own the Arai in question. BTW breaking news--the shields suck!
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:24 AM   #27
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I call BS on a scorpion recall. Our shop sells a ton of them & we know most of their reps personally. I've never heard a thing about it.

The only Scorpions that failed testing were when the tests were run at below freezing temps........don't think that's a big concern for me since my will not be riding.
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:26 AM   #28
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I call BS on a scorpion recall. Our shop sells a ton of them & we know most of their reps personally. I've never heard a thing about it.

The only Scorpions that failed testing were when the tests were run at below freezing temps........don't think that's a big concern for me since my will not be riding.
I think you are right that there was no recall. It failed the same test the Arai did, though more severely, and also a penetration test.

The freezing thing isn't so relevant in my opinion. It's a known test that they are supposed to pass, and by putting a DOT sticker on their helmet they are pledging that they do pass. It's damaging to their credibility, makes me wonder what else was overlooked.
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Old 01-04-2007, 09:03 AM   #29
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I thought the scorpion recall was bs, otherwise we wouldn't be selling as many as we do, and scorpion would've wanted all of the helmets in question back. I wouldn't be suprised to see them surpass arai in next years JDpower and associates consumer satisfaction reports.
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Satisfaction is a pretty crude measure for a helmet though.
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Old 01-04-2007, 10:39 AM   #31
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Satisfaction is a pretty crude measure for a helmet though.
arai has been number one for the past eight years. . .i would think consumer satisfaction and helmet quality would go hand in hand? but what do i know? either way, arai, scorpion, bell, whatever helmet you have, it's better than not wearing a helmet at all.
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Aria helmets have saved several of my friends lives. Not sure how you would consider that an over priced piece of safety equipment?
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:48 AM   #33
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Did you read the government document? It failed a DOT inspection. That doesn't mean it'll never work, it means Arai failed a test that it knew about up front and has known about for 30 years. Speaks to the company's credibility, that's all.

I'm glad your friends are still around, but lots of helmets save lives, and they're mostly not Arais.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:54 AM   #34
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Did you read the government document? It failed a DOT inspection. That doesn't mean it'll never work, it means Arai failed a test that it knew about up front and has known about for 30 years. Speaks to the company's credibility, that's all.

I'm glad your friends are still around, but lots of helmets save lives, and they're mostly not Arais.
Nope, didn't read it and don't care. I have seen the crash results of several helmets and tested quite a few myself. Was just stating that Aria has saved several of my friends.
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:00 PM   #35
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Did you read the government document? It failed a DOT inspection. That doesn't mean it'll never work, it means Arai failed a test that it knew about up front and has known about for 30 years. Speaks to the company's credibility, that's all.

I'm glad your friends are still around, but lots of helmets save lives, and they're mostly not Arais.
You guys need to research on how helmets are tested. Dot and snell test production batches of helmets. If a helmet fails from a certain production run, that run is scrapped and another batch is tested. I guarantee that every manufacturer has batches that fail every now and then. Kinda like cars. they are all made the same but every 1 in 100 is a complete lemon. Just how it is. That doesn't mean that every one of that model produced is subject to that same failure.
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"I'm glad your friends are still around, but lots of helmets save lives, and they're mostly not Arais."

Care to provide research that shows accident listings demonstrating what helmets what helmets were involved by brand and model? and how they faired in those?
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"I'm glad your friends are still around, but lots of helmets save lives, and they're mostly not Arais."

Care to provide research that shows accident listings demonstrating what helmets what helmets were involved by brand and model? and how they faired in those?
That is your speculation. There is no research on what helmets are involved in certain crashes. No one knows that data. If you don't like arai don't buy one then.
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Care to provide research that shows accident listings demonstrating what helmets what helmets were involved by brand and model? and how they faired in those?
Seriously, what is the ****ing deal with people lately and responding to my comments as if I need to prove something. It was a statement towards the quality I have personally witnessed from Aria helmets. I can also make a statement towards Shoei and how I have trashed 3 of them myself but, I currently own a Scorpion and I will let you know how well it crashes if that point comes around. As for stats and all that bullshit I do not ****ing care at the moment and I am not here to go do research for you or anyone else. Get ****ing over it! It was a simple statement on my behalf not a federal funded research campaign.
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Seriously, what is the ****ing deal with people lately and responding to my comments as if I need to prove something. It was a statement towards the quality I have personally witnessed from Aria helmets. I can also make a statement towards Shoei and how I have trashed 3 of them myself but, I currently own a Scorpion and I will let you know how well it crashes if that point comes around. As for stats and all that bullshit I do not ****ing care at the moment and I am not here to go do research for you or anyone else. Get ****ing over it! It was a simple statement on my behalf not a federal funded research campaign.
You notice that people who make comments like that are usually very uneducated on the matter. They base their opinion on what their friends wear and say. Sure some cheaper helmets are capable of doing the job. Most people buy a helmet based on a paint job. People, it is your head that will take a beating if you go down. Do your own research and decide for yourself what Your head is worth to you. I own 2 kbc helmets and 2 shoeis. The kbc helmets are collecting dust. They are . I think i will turn them into my cart racing helmet. The comfort and build quality of a shoei rocks.
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You notice that people who make comments like that are usually very uneducated on the matter. They base their opinion on what their friends wear and say. Sure some cheaper helmets are capable of doing the job. Most people buy a helmet based on a paint job. People, it is your head that will take a beating if you go down. Do your own research and decide for yourself what Your head is worth to you. I own 2 kbc helmets and 2 shoeis. The kbc helmets are collecting dust. They are . I think i will turn them into my cart racing helmet. The comfort and build quality of a shoei rocks.
Thank You, I was feeling very confused for a moment.
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