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Old 05-16-2012, 02:01 PM   #61
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I just had a guy right next to me on BW8 driving a brand new Lincoln slowly drift toward me. No signal, no headcheck, or even mirror check (from looking at the guy's head). The scary thing was, my instinct was not to brake, but to move over to the next lane. Now I had time to do my head check and signal before the lane change, but I really need to self-evaluate WHY is it that I didn't just lightly squeeze that brake lever to give myself more time & options.

If I had backed off, I could've easily - and safely - manuvre around traffic to pass the guy. 2 minutes later, I could be 1/4 mile ahead.

I need to re-train my instincts.
Maybe you don't want to brake because you don't want a truck enema? I'm always paranoid that the people behind me aren't going to realize I'm braking and run right up my .
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Old 05-16-2012, 02:07 PM   #62
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I just had a guy right next to me on BW8 driving a brand new Lincoln slowly drift toward me. No signal, no headcheck, or even mirror check (from looking at the guy's head). The scary thing was, my instinct was not to brake, but to move over to the next lane. Now I had time to do my head check and signal before the lane change, but I really need to self-evaluate WHY is it that I didn't just lightly squeeze that brake lever to give myself more time & options.

If I had backed off, I could've easily - and safely - manuvre around traffic to pass the guy. 2 minutes later, I could be 1/4 mile ahead.

I need to re-train my instincts.
Your not alone on this one. The good thing is that you've identified your own problems/mistakes and are willing to change/correct them - Some people either don't know or don't care about theirs.
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Old 05-16-2012, 02:22 PM   #63
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I just had a guy right next to me on BW8 driving a brand new Lincoln slowly drift toward me. No signal, no headcheck, or even mirror check (from looking at the guy's head). The scary thing was, my instinct was not to brake, but to move over to the next lane. Now I had time to do my head check and signal before the lane change, but I really need to self-evaluate WHY is it that I didn't just lightly squeeze that brake lever to give myself more time & options.

If I had backed off, I could've easily - and safely - manuvre around traffic to pass the guy. 2 minutes later, I could be 1/4 mile ahead.

I need to re-train my instincts.
Sorry.. I would have had to speed up to his window and tap on it to get his attention
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:22 PM   #64
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I thought about honking my horn to get his attention, but I sure as heck was not going to wait around hoping for him to swerve back into his lane. Besides, I find that sometime people react a bit too drastically when you honk at them in a situation like that.

As for not wanting a truck enema, that's very true in general. I usually try to be in a position with as much "buffer" behind me as I possibly can, especially on fwys. In this case though, the guy was drifting real slow, so I wouldn't have to test the ABS on my C14. A gentle squeeze would've been all that's necessary.

Having been rear ended 5 times (all in cages and none were my fault), in which 2 of my vehicles were totaled, I am paranoid about constantly checking my six. So much so that I put ZX10R (lobster claw) mirrors on my RSV (see my avatar). I avoid tail gaters like the plague. So I tried my darnest to avoid getting caught with a F-350's grill riding my @ss.

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crazy. His bike kept going and his leg is def screwed. He had boots though luckily and his other gear probably helped a lot.
Yeah, his leg probably would've been completely severed if he just wore shorts. And it wouldn't have been a clean cut, so no re-attachment.

Hope he regains at least partial function of that leg.
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:01 PM   #66
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Did you see the 2nd video on the same page? wow
Yeah, wow for sure. Dude was an acrobatic hoss.
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Now, that would be using the brakes, not gassing it....wouldn't it?




Think the incident can be summed up as...when it comes to E-peens on the road, the bigger vehicle wins.
I can always avoid a situation with a wrist twist, or two fingers. If that isin't enough I do a hot pit to get away. I can do circles on freeway ramps all day long. I have extra time
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I didn't watch the video, but there are 's everewhere cutting brothers off.
Yep , the whole world over.
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I can always avoid a situation with a wrist twist, or two fingers. If that isin't enough I do a hot pit to get away. I can do circles on freeway ramps all day long. I have extra time
You think like I do. I am always willing to miss my exit or take one to get away from situations. Even if it makes me late for work it's well worth it.

I try to remain constantly aware of what is going on around me at all times. And I try to never be in anyones blind spot for longer than I have to. If I feel boxed in on the freeway I will accelerate and get out of a potential situation before it even has a chance of happening. There's no time for daydreaming or flirting with the girls on a bike.

One thing I don't like doing is wearing an I-Pod. I want to hear the squeeling tires and other noises going on around me. The fewer distractions the better.
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Got to give the guys props for having on his gear & wearing it correctly.
His head took a real pounding from the rails ,but the helmet stayed in place .
Hope he is alive & fully recovered .
After watching that vid , no way would I ride without a helmet & full gear.
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I have nothing better to do so lets break this video down a bit.

First, we clearly see the Mazda cutting across in front of the motorcycle. The rider apparently just doesn't notice the crazy mazda.
part1

The rider gets on the brakes but no very hard apparently. The bike isn't pitching forward almost at all.
part2

The bike is still on the brakes trying to maneuver outside the car.
part3

Now the bike is completely clear of the car but he is still on the brakes, and he's not turning.
part4

And he collides with the wall still holding the brakes. I couldn't see a wheel lockup and it didn't look like he was braking hard.
part5

Yes. Its the mazda's fault. But I believe the rider could have paid more attention and possibly seen the mazda sooner to brake hard to avoid entering the same space in a lane. He was also clear of the mazda at one point but held the brakes and just drove right into the wall instead of leaning harder to correct his course.
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Totally a recoverable situation I agree.
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Yes. Its the mazda's fault. But I believe the rider could have paid more attention and possibly seen the mazda sooner to brake hard to avoid entering the same space in a lane. He was also clear of the mazda at one point but held the brakes and just drove right into the wall instead of leaning harder to correct his course.
Welcome to the wonderful world of target fixation and countersteering..

The more he looked at the rail and tried to turn away, the more he went into it.
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I have nothing better to do so lets break this video down a bit.

First, we clearly see the Mazda cutting across in front of the motorcycle. The rider apparently just doesn't notice the crazy mazda.part1

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i disagree, he knows Mazda is cutting across, he's just trying to beat him to the same spot.
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i disagree, he knows Mazda is cutting across, he's just trying to beat him to the same spot.
so you really think the cager is not a at fault here?? not say all the fault there was things the rider could have done to avoid it yes but the cager is the primary wrong person here... yeah he can careless because nothing happened to him but it was his fault 100% imo
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its down to percentages, cager is responsible, but not 100%

and way back, dunno if its true or not, but if you're not physically in the accident, you're really not in the accident. you might be the cause, but if your not hit, are you part of the accident. maybe the LEO's or Wack may give their legal opinion vs i-net folklore.
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Yeah I'd say so. That didn't look to good. His head played that guard rail like a xylophone. I love to how the cager just keeps on going like it didn't notice the bike he just plowed into. What a jackass.

Also did you see how far that bike went after he fell off of it!! that was like another 1/4 mile further!!

Hope the rider recovers.
I just saw it on a traffic cam in Toronto, it's still going!

Seriously, that rider screwed up, he should have backed off after the 6 second mark and could have avoided that.
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I was involved in an accident back in '97. I was following an old '70s pickup on the inside lane of a 4-lane street with center divider, when a car cut in front of the pickup from the outside lane all the way across to make a u-turn. The pickup screeched to a stop. I screeched to a stop. The minivan behind me rear-ended me and pushed me into the pickup.

The minivan driver came out screaming and yelling about the car that caused the whole thing, but it was long gone.

Cop came and ended up giving the minivan driver a ticket for "failure to maintain safe following distance". Poor sap's insurance paid me and the pickup driver's claims.
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