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Old 05-08-2012, 10:55 AM   #61
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You also know I think what you do on the noob rides is a good thing. I say it in your noob ride threads
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The op has 2 years riding experience. So why is a noob ride recommended befor a td.
Don't tell me you believe that just because it's on the internet. I mean, no one would LIE about their experience, would they? Not saying OP is lying, but I always take the experience info with a grain of salt.

On a practical note, seat time does not equal experience. My brother is a good example. He's been riding for a year now....6 miles to and from work in a straight line. No curves, no group rides...nada. Took him out a few weeks ago for a ride through some twisties. He was taking curves at less than the SUGGESTED speeds. Took me forever to work him up to taking curves with no suggested speed at anything close to posted. Lot of guys like that out there, and the track might not be the best place for them.
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I don't care what anyone says, more time on the street you are more likely to go down for whatever reason. Alot of the wrecks can be prevented if the person went to the track and learned how to properly ride a bike.


Ive been on a noob ride and have seen people go down. Not saying the noob rides are bad but don't even compare it to a trackday what you can learn.

Why do you need more seat time befor the track? I've seen people buy a bike never touch the street and go straight to the track and it be ok and they learn all more.
Actually, in any giving trackday I have seen or heard about more wrecks than on a noob ride...

It's about the rider,not the environment so much, some people just want to push it.
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When I rode the street every wreck I seen was due to the rider making dumb descions that he would have learned at a td.
You can say the same for the track...plenty of rider error out there.

Sure it's a safer place, but it's not the end all be all of proper street riding learning.
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A TD would be perfect IMO. The first half of the day you'll be going less than highway speeds, and have plenty of instructor attention the whole day to get you on the right path.
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Well there's lots of good info here. I Am planning on taking classes and doing a track day. I just have more important financial priorities at the moment. So learning from you guys is the next best thing.
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When I rode the street every wreck I seen was due to the rider making dumb descions that he would have learned at a td.
Apparently when you where riding street you where doing so in manner that should be reserved for the track, that in itself is the dumb descision. I've been on group rides so I know how it goes. I've also been riding long enough to know all types of riders, and the largest demographic for a downed rider is the young sportbike weilding go fast johnny rockets. But I agree, though I have never done a track day, if you want to learn the twisties the track is best. Especially around here. We all like a little excitement and sometimes whack the throttle or get our lean on, but it's up to you to know your limits.
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Go cornerwork for a day. Basically you'll spend the day helping out, standing in one of the corners with a radio and wave the checkered or other flags when told. You'll get an up close look and riding track and earn a free track day credit. Win/win.
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That's sounds like something I'd really like to do ! Thanks for the advice
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