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Old 05-07-2012, 03:46 PM   #81
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well, then that opens up a another whole can of worms... no rule prohibiting the inside pass... now did he have 6' when he started? could change the whole perspective on whose fault the off was. could make zerobounds arguement have more meat in it.
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IMO, its the track, accidents happen(less so than the streets). If you arent ok with that, prolly not a good place to be.


......for those of you who want to hang the guy(whoever is at fault) I hope YOU never make a mistake and cause someone else out there to have a bad day....
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2 people? News to me...

Make is a strong word.. my first track day there was some debate about 1 guy running wide after I chose to park it in the turn..in Novice... Granted I made a mistake, chose to brake, to avoid an off of my own. An individual coming up too close made a decision to avoid and leave the track where he did not go down until trying to re-enter the track. Mistakes were made... by both parties and I accept that fact. I learned to be on the line more consistently and he learned that Novice is not the time for licking each others tail pipes..

Are you aware of another person?
Relax. It was a joke...


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Ha not... just wondered if I owed anyone else a beer
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Why don't you tell us how you really feel...
LOL, didn't think my post made it through.

I blame passing rider for not following the rules. If rules say you can't pass on the inside you can't pass on the inside.

Either way, I don't trust anyone when they approach a turn unless I've seen them run consistent lines.

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LOL, didn't think my post made it through.

I blame passing rider for not following the rules. If rules say you can't pass on the inside you can't pass on the inside.

Either way, I don't trust anyone when they approach a turn unless I've seen them run consistent lines.

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rules allow for inside passing.
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The reality is that happens at almost every track day, some not so close but close. I have completely changed my attitude at track days, but you can't count the ricky racers that "think they have skills" always trying to make a move. You just hope its not you that gets taken out. I've also been lucky that my ups didn't involve anyone and were minor in comparison with others. Most play by the rules but there's always one that can ruin the day. No one wants to wreck, but unless I get paid to ride I will never sneak up on someone like that. My ego knows motogp is not in my future
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I learned a lot on my first track day and even more in retrospect after watching videos. My immaturity had me blasting down the straights for the thrill and not concentrating more on my lines. I don't think I did any unsafe passing or felt I was unsafely passed (many times), but I definitely have a lot to learn. I'll be better each time, but know there will be others learning. As a noob, it can be difficult to hold back the adrenaline rush the first time you're on the track.

An yes, I know this was about the intermediate group.
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hmm, wonder how much time he spent planning that move.
This says it all... the rest of this thread can be deleted.

We all watched the same vid, and saw the same thing. The passer did'nt take the time to get to know the person he was passing. Think about this and all the rules are unnecassary. When speeds are more evenly matched, riders, naturally have more time behind the other rider to observe and must develop a plan. Take the time to observerve the other rider, get to know them a bit. You may even be able to help them out, rather than look at them as a waste of your time.
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rules allow for inside passing.


I believe you are misinforming people

Passing is not allowed on the inside in the intermediate group at Gingerman


I spent several years up north doing track days in the tri-state area around blackwahk farms, autobahn, Gingerman, Grattan...etc and the rules are consistent.
Ironically only a few weeks ago I had this same discussion with my friends up north (some of them actually attended this event) regarding how much more lose the rules are here in the south. Even on little things, such as no side stands on track days, no antifreeze....etc Advanced groups has to have everything safety wired....etc.
Definitely no passing on the inside intermediate groups (unless in a situation that it is safer to do so) in fact it is a daily complaint even when control riders do it because it is simply not expected.
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I believe you are misinforming people

Passing is not allowed on the inside in the intermediate group at Gingerman


I spent several years up north doing track days in the tri-state area around blackwahk farms, autobahn, Gingerman, Grattan...etc and the rules are consistent.
Ironically only a few weeks ago I had this same discussion with my friends up north (some of them actually attended this event) regarding how much more lose the rules are here in the south. Even on little things, such as no side stands on track days, no antifreeze....etc Advanced groups has to have everything safety wired....etc.
Definitely no passing on the inside intermediate groups (unless in a situation that it is safer to do so) in fact it is a daily complaint even when control riders do it because it is simply not expected.
The rules are in the picture below.
I guess thats from the track? I linked my quote off of their own website (STT)
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This says it all... the rest of this thread can be deleted.

We all watched the same vid, and saw the same thing. The passer did'nt take the time to get to know the person he was passing. Think about this and all the rules are unnecassary. When speeds are more evenly matched, riders, naturally have more time behind the other rider to observe and must develop a plan. Take the time to observerve the other rider, get to know them a bit. You may even be able to help them out, rather than look at them as a waste of your time.
got it. I need to, invidually, take 34 other riders in my group out to dinner and a movie prior to attempting a pass.
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got it. I need to, invidually, take 34 other riders in my group out to dinner and a movie prior to attempting a pass.
And a sincere apology letter professionally written in calligraphy for any startling you may have caused them.
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And a sincere apology letter professionally written in calligraphy for any startling you may have caused them.
And a happy ending
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