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Old 05-07-2012, 02:14 PM   #41
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Depending on your bike.
We've attended enough LSTD day rider's meetings to know the answer to that problem.
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I just clipped him, rubbins racinin, I mean riding .
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no more like passing on the inside and slamming into a less experienced rider because your a cool cat who drags knees
So i guess we are excluding riding 'all over the place' from the do whatever you want category and assume its an acceptable form of riding in intermediate.
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So i guess we are excluding riding 'all over the place' from the do whatever you want category and assume its an acceptable form of riding in intermediate.
No I made a statement of fault, not whether or not I believe he should be in intermediate; not whether or not I feel the video portrayed enough of his riding talent, or whether or not I believe he was "all over the place" which is all completely irrelevant.

The passer was 100% at fault for breaking the rules of the track which led to a wreck.

Ever think that maybe the rules (such as no passing on the inside) were made for a reason (to anticipate this situation)? I guess not, must be arbitrary methods to reduce your fun levels!! Yes that's it!
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If the rules say NO INSIDE PASSING then that's all there is to it.

We can come up with a bajillion reasons why the POV rider is an , doesn't belong on the track, and is possibly a terrorist. None of that actually matters.
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If the rules say NO INSIDE PASSING then that's all there is to it.

We can come up with a bajillion reasons why the POV rider is an , doesn't belong on the track, and is possibly a terrorist. None of that actually matters.
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[QUOTE=BYRDMAN;3248048] almost had this happen to me at TWS (Texas World Speedway).

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That reminds me of something ..... only that time you had a different view of the events
Not so easy when being on the receiving end of it (keep it PG)


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rubbin is racing... , I have heard that before...but this ain't a race...
and yep if the rules state no inside passing, it is what it is...even if the camera toting rider was all over the place... have him moved down to learn the lines, but don't pass cause bad can happen, you never know when some bozo will nose dive in on you.
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We've attended enough LSTD day rider's meetings to know the answer to that problem.

Working on it...
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No its pretty simple follow the rules of the track, you don't know whats going in with the guy in front of you, he could be trying to work out a suspension issue, or a braking issue, or having problems finding the line. But the bottom line is he is EXPECTING his inside to be clear, and so he can do stupid on his track day on his inside because there is NO passing on his inside.

A track day isn't designed so you can do whatever the you wannna do, its designed to been fun and enjoyable for everyone inside the rules.

This 100%

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like ride erratically all over the place and ruin it for everyone behind you?
You needed to pay more attention at the 10+ riders meetings you attended.
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almost had this happen to me at TWS (Texas World Speedway).

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That reminds me of something ..... only that time you had a different view of the events
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Bwahaha no more mock races for u

Ive has some closer passes in lightweight....
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You needed to pay more attention at the 10+ riders meetings you attended.
Among other things, they also remind everyone to not sign up for a group outside your skill level.
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Bwahaha no more mock races for u

Ive has some closer passes in lightweight....

oh no! not again, the emphasis is on 'race" not on "mock" right?
Lightweight is always closer, you guys can change directions faster and your bikes are disposable
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oh no! not again, the emphasis is on 'race" not on "mock" right?
Lightweight is always closer, you guys can change directions faster and your bikes are disposable
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like ride erratically all over the place and ruin it for everyone behind you?
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no more like passing on the inside and slamming into a less experienced rider because your a cool cat who drags knees
And make everyone wait while the crash truck comes to get you.

Is your brain taking a vacation to Uranus today, zerobounds?
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Be careful how/when you make passes, you never know how bad the rider is in front of you...

POV rider was erratic and dove back into the turn, off his original line
Inside Guy shouldn't have made the pass since that Org's rules state Int passing on the outside only with 6ft cushion.

So I'm gonna say it was 80/20 split in fault
Bingo! This guy knows what he's talking about. Could not have said it better myself.
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And make everyone wait while the crash truck comes to get you.

Is your brain taking a vacation to Uranus today, zerobounds?
No, I'm not disputing that if inside passes aren't allowed then its his fault but I'm saying it's unfair that it is strictly his fault and he's called out as an based on the way the guy in front of him was riding, which is nothing short of novice.
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No, I'm not disputing that if inside passes aren't allowed then its his fault but I'm saying it's unfair that it is strictly his fault and he's called out as an based on the way the guy in front of him was riding, which is nothing short of novice.
"intermediate" guy breaks the rules
"intermediate" guy does not detect erratic riding infont.
"intermediate" guy causes accident

Simple as that, guy infornt can't help any of it. its a track day not a race, we have all been there and we all waited for the safe opportunity to pass.....i hope.
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"intermediate" guy breaks the rules
"intermediate" guy does not detect erratic riding infont.
"intermediate" guy causes accident

Simple as that, guy infornt can't help any of it. its a track day not a race, we have all been there and we all waited for the safe opportunity to pass.....i hope.
I think they should stay in intermediate... mainly cause I am in novice and don't want either asshat out there with me.
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one of the reasons I stay in novice... i watch what happens in intermediate, and I would choose to stay in novice ... if I were fast enough I would just skip intermediate and go straight to level 3/advanced... but , I am comfortable in Novice and will likely stay there until they make me move...
I get my racing fix in TMGP, where you expect close in passes at any time...and should not be surprised when someone passes you intight in a tight turn, there are no other kind.
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