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Old 05-07-2012, 11:14 AM   #21
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in the right hands on the track it will burn those 600s up.
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:14 AM   #22
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What Veraiconica said is absolutely correct.. right bike for the job. Prime example is my SV650..

The SV650 when stock is a pretty comfortable sport standard bike with a V-twin engine. Not particularly fast but fairly torquey and forgiving for a new rider that is just learning which was one of the motivating factors for my choice in bike. Let us not forget the sound... deep and throaty.. what engines should sound like... not like the more high pitch i4. Gets decent gas mileage... so makes a pretty good commuter...

Fast forward a little over a year...

My bike is now uncomfortable for long trips.. I raised the pegs and pushed them back to mimic the SS, it is geared to stay in the higher RPM power band, suspension has been stiffened significantly all with going to the Track in mind because I rarely commute now. I basically go on the occasional weekend ride... and take it to the track when I can afford it. Consequently I am looking for something for the street... which ironically won't be comfortable either.. DRZ-400SM.

My point is every time I get on that bike it makes me happy... she rides the way I want her to ride... I rode a 600 and it was a blast... you get the itch for that power but I just can't let go of my love for the V-twin. Point is doesn't matter what we think.. if you fall in love with that Kan-a-tuna and you decide you just can't let it go.. then change the engines and happy riding. If you decide you want a 600/liter whatever then do it.. its about your ride.

Everyone makes fun of my little 650... because its not fast, its not pretty but you know.. in the right hands on the track it will burn those 600s up. It is about the rider not the bike.. if my bike had a rider more capable than me then it would be more capable of great things. So don't ever think you need a 600 or a liter just because those are the most popular... choose a bike that speaks to you, takes care of you the way you take care of it, and you are comfortable with in whatever your purpose is.
This being said that is what every rider I have talked to has said. Very good advice and I thank you. I just have to venture out and get the feel for other bikes. Ive drivin my dads bikes(too many to name, changes them like a girl changes her purse.) And ive come to the katana whick i do like the way it rides, Just not for everyday use. Its COMFY! Ive gone on Rides from houston to virginia and my or back not hurt as much as everyone else complains. So i dont really know where i stand with my "type" of bike. Where would you suggest to get the feel for other bikes? I dont wanna go on craigslist and test everyone bikes cause i would hate for someone to do that too me, and i dont want the dealership to hook me in lol
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:02 PM   #23
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I ride my bike everywhere, every chance i get lol. If it rains, or to cold i use my jeep. Gas kills me in my 12 mpg. lol
Well then I ride all the time as well, so I can tell you my thought process in picking my "noob killing instant death liter bike". First I rode the different bikes I was interested in ninja 650, zx-6r,fz6r, ninja 100 and a vstar 650 for and giggles.

The zx-6r was a lot of fun to ride but I was honest with myself and decided there is no way I could handle stop and go traffic on the way home from work on that bike.

The Ninja 650 I loved this bike it was comfortable, peppier than the 500 and fun to ride.

Fz6r almost identical to the 650 but quieter.

Vstar 650 what can I say not a cruiser type of guy.

Ninja 1000 this bike fit my body like glove I knew this was my next bike instantly. It has a comfortable upright position, my knees can grip the tank like it was build for me, it has abs brakes(only bike I tried with them) and it handles stop and go traffic without a lot of shifting. Also I am averaging 45-50 mpg with this bike.

In the end ABS was my deciding factor over the 650 or fz6r.

Moral is go rides some bikes and you will know which is the right bike for you.
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:07 PM   #24
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This being said that is what every rider I have talked to has said. Very good advice and I thank you. I just have to venture out and get the feel for other bikes. Ive drivin my dads bikes(too many to name, changes them like a girl changes her purse.) And ive come to the katana whick i do like the way it rides, Just not for everyday use. Its COMFY! Ive gone on Rides from houston to virginia and my or back not hurt as much as everyone else complains. So i dont really know where i stand with my "type" of bike. Where would you suggest to get the feel for other bikes? I dont wanna go on craigslist and test everyone bikes cause i would hate for someone to do that too me, and i dont want the dealership to hook me in lol
I went to factory sponsored demo days from kawasaki and yamaha there was no pressure to buy whatsoever. You just have to keep an eye out for them.
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Without adjustment in the suspension you're stuck to the dampening only in the front. Position is very comfortable but lower sets and especially centerstand will cause issues on the track. It is a good, reliable bike. Only problems I had e mine were junked up carbs after sitting for months on end as I rode other bikes. Easy to work on, ok trunk space, easily modded. Its a great commuter bike.

For the aspect if reinventing the wheel that project would be fun. However u wont get a return in future sale and will cost about what you'd spend for an upgrade whether to another sport touring or sportsbike. All things to consider in your endeavor.

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According to Tony Ta he put up consistent 1:41s at MSRH on the SV... so I would say with the right rider.. it is possible...
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According to Tony Ta he put up consistent 1:41s at MSRH on the SV... so I would say with the right rider.. it is possible...
I've ridden both, there is no comparison
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In power output? I absolutely agree.. however power is not everything... just allows you to hide a lack of ability behind a surplus of power..
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In power output? I absolutely agree.. however power is not everything... just allows you to hide a lack of ability behind a surplus of power..
An SV won't out turn a R6, GSX-R600, or CBR600RR
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Maybe you are right Bevo. I am not saying the SV is the greatest bike in the world.. it has its drawbacks just like the 600 SS have theirs. It is however the bike I fell in love with and I firmly believe learning to be fast on a less capable bike is not only more fun because its more fun to go fast on a slow bike than to go slow on a fast bike... but also means you learn the right habits so you can be fast on anything instead of always relying on the power in the straights to make up for deficiencies in the corners.

Lets agree to disagree since I am slow no matter what I ride... in fact I am probably slower on a 600 or 1000 cause I don't trust myself with the extra power and not as comfortable with the torque curve as that power is delivered. Everyone has an opinion and as it turns out opinions can't be wrong... only facts can be
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Going back to the original question, if you want real-world experience, talk to ST675. He bought a 1200 from me to put in his Kat750 when I parted out my bandit. I don't think it sounded particularly difficult, and really, if you check out some make-specific forums like maximum-suzuki.com, it's not terribly uncommon to see bandits being parted out simply because the engine alone is worth almost as much as you can get for the bike whole, and it's the only way to get your money out of them.
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Maybe you are right Bevo. I am not saying the SV is the greatest bike in the world.. it has its drawbacks just like the 600 SS have theirs. It is however the bike I fell in love with and I firmly believe learning to be fast on a less capable bike is not only more fun because its more fun to go fast on a slow bike than to go slow on a fast bike... but also means you learn the right habits so you can be fast on anything instead of always relying on the power in the straights to make up for deficiencies in the corners.

Lets agree to disagree since I am slow no matter what I ride... in fact I am probably slower on a 600 or 1000 cause I don't trust myself with the extra power and not as comfortable with the torque curve as that power is delivered. Everyone has an opinion and as it turns out opinions can't be wrong... only facts can be
Never said it wasn't a good bike, just disagreeing with you that "it will burn those 600s up". I did a trackday on a SV and I did pass some 600s, but that was because those riders were slow. My CBR600RR would have smoked it
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