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Old 05-07-2012, 10:09 AM   #1
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Question on a 2006 katana Modification might you say...

I have a 2006 suzuki katana, Nick named the Kantaworka.
Its a 600 and i want soemthing faster, so one of the mechanics at On the border when i was getting my carbs worked on mentioned that I could take a suzuki bandit 1200 engine and it would basically bolt right in. Then another person there told me to just get a gsxr 1100 engine cause bandits are hard to find with JUST the engine for sale, and it would also bolt right in. So my question is should i even attempt this or just sell my bike and get a R1 or something bigger?? If your opinion would be to go ahead and do it, do you know of what problems might come into effect with the swap. Sorry if this isnt the right section, still new.
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:15 AM   #2
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You want a 1200.... or an 1100 and you have 8 months experience..

I wish I was as fast a learner as you...

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Old 05-07-2012, 10:21 AM   #3
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You want a 1200.... or an 1100 and you have 8 months experience..

I wish I was as fast a learner as you...

Lol, Forgot to add, This isnt going to be happeneing right away. I know i need more experience, so this isnt goign to happen for another year. I just want to get a heads up and have a PLAN for when i either want to do this or just sell my bike and get a bigger one.
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Sell it. The bike is heavy and doesn't handle worth a . Save yourself the headache
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:25 AM   #5
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It's a bit of work, and it's not cheap once you buy the engine, exhaust, carbs etc.

Imo save your money and buy a liter bike if that's what you want.
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Yeah thats kinda where i was leaning but i didnt knwo much. Ughhh lol
I Wanna say its 500 lbs without me on it. lmaoo.
But yeah i think ima sell it when its time for an upgrade.
Another question when would be a good time to upgrade, Ive been riding for 9 months(in the cold too) i know thats not EnOUGH experience but i was thinking like a year and a half to 2 years, cause im comfortable with this bike. But getting comfy is usually when it goes down, so im expecting everything. lol
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Sell it. The bike is heavy and doesn't handle worth a . Save yourself the headache
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It's a bit of work, and it's not cheap once you buy the engine, exhaust, carbs etc.

Imo save your money and buy a liter bike if that's what you want.
I concur. I would only do something like that if I either wanted a somewhat unique bike or wanted to do it for the project aspect of it. Otherwise, just get a different bike and you'll have better power, handling, brakes, etc. You'll be riding quicker and with much less headache.
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I concur. I would only do something like that if I either wanted a somewhat unique bike or wanted to do it for the project aspect of it. Otherwise, just get a different bike and you'll have better power, handling, brakes, etc. You'll be riding quicker and with much less headache.
Honestly I will prolly ride mine til it dies... and then who knows ... may buy the same thing again...
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I wonder why alot of people say they want a bigger bike I've owned a busa and a 954 but at the end of the day I'd still prefer a 600
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I wonder why alot of people say they want a bigger bike I've owned a busa and a 954 but at the end of the day I'd still prefer a 600
Can you elaborate please?
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Can you elaborate please?
Katanas weren't well known for their handling or power. They were a sport touring bike... which in Japanese means detuned ... not to mention extremely heavy. Heavier bikes take more effort to flick around while cornering. Alot of people prefer the 600 SS bikes since they are light, easily flickable while having more than enough power for most riders. A liter bike will tear up a 600 on a straight away but there are plenty of 600 riders out there that keep the liters in check because they are better riders in the corners, braking later and picking the throttle up sooner.

Not to mention modern 600s and liter bikes have come a long way in technology to make them superior in braking, power output, suspension etc.. and from what I hear a slipper clutch is a cool piece of technology as well. Personally I haven't ridden a 600 but a couple of times and it was alot of fun but I like the way my 650 Vtwin handles.. so it really comes to a couple factors.

1) How good a rider are you?
2) What are you going to be using it for?
3) What is your personal preferences for power, technology, torque curves etc.
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Honestly I will prolly ride mine til it dies... and then who knows ... may buy the same thing again...
I used to say that if the RC died that I would either rebuild it or drop a new engine in it. I love it and ride it more than my other bikes, but I'm just not sure anymore that I will mess with it when/if she dies.
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Don't mark that on a calendar. Only you know when you feel ready to upgrade. I started on a 600ss.
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Katanas weren't well known for their handling or power. They were a sport touring bike... which in Japanese means detuned ... not to mention extremely heavy. Heavier bikes take more effort to flick around while cornering. Alot of people prefer the 600 SS bikes since they are light, easily flickable while having more than enough power for most riders. A liter bike will tear up a 600 on a straight away but there are plenty of 600 riders out there that keep the liters in check because they are better riders in the corners, braking later and picking the throttle up sooner.
Very valid point, The bike is super heavy lol, But i have driven my friends r6, and it felt about the same on cornering... I could just not have the experience on his bike but yeahh. Idk lol
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What do you use the bike for?
Track, commuting, touring or weekend joy rides?

In my noob opinion getting the right bike for the right job makes the biggest difference in the size of your grin.
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Very valid point, The bike is super heavy lol, But i have driven my friends r6, and it felt about the same on cornering... I could just not have the experience on his bike but yeahh. Idk lol
Well... hate to say this but even on the 600 vs. my 650 which have nominal weight differences and different wheelbases ( I know for a fact any R6 is gonna have a shorter wheel base than that Katana) you can feel a difference in handling..
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In my noob opinion getting the right bike for the right job makes the biggest difference in the size of your grin.
I ride my bike everywhere, every chance i get lol. If it rains, or to cold i use my jeep. Gas kills me in my 12 mpg. lol
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Well... hate to say this but even on the 600 vs. my 650 which have nominal weight differences and different wheelbases ( I know for a fact any R6 is gonna have a shorter wheel base than that Katana) you can feel a difference in handling..
I think ill stick with the 600 for a bit lol Thank you!

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I would get a 600. I've never seen you ride but highly doubt you can even ride a 600 near its full potential.


There is a lot of advantages a 600 has over a 1000 "besides TWS (Texas World Speedway) lol". Go to the track and you will see. I noticed it real bad at cresson on the 1.3 those 1000 couldn't stay with the 600's
Ive done the parade laps at msr ?? Lol
But i know its no where near the full potential on a track, But I dont plan on doing the track a whole lot.
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I ride my bike everywhere, every chance i get lol. If it rains, or to cold i use my jeep. Gas kills me in my 12 mpg. lol
What Veraiconica said is absolutely correct.. right bike for the job. Prime example is my SV650..

The SV650 when stock is a pretty comfortable sport standard bike with a V-twin engine. Not particularly fast but fairly torquey and forgiving for a new rider that is just learning which was one of the motivating factors for my choice in bike. Let us not forget the sound... deep and throaty.. what engines should sound like... not like the more high pitch i4. Gets decent gas mileage... so makes a pretty good commuter...

Fast forward a little over a year...

My bike is now uncomfortable for long trips.. I raised the pegs and pushed them back to mimic the SS, it is geared to stay in the higher RPM power band, suspension has been stiffened significantly all with going to the Track in mind because I rarely commute now. I basically go on the occasional weekend ride... and take it to the track when I can afford it. Consequently I am looking for something for the street... which ironically won't be comfortable either.. DRZ-400SM.

My point is every time I get on that bike it makes me happy... she rides the way I want her to ride... I rode a 600 and it was a blast... you get the itch for that power but I just can't let go of my love for the V-twin. Point is doesn't matter what we think.. if you fall in love with that Kan-a-tuna and you decide you just can't let it go.. then change the engines and happy riding. If you decide you want a 600/liter whatever then do it.. its about your ride.

Everyone makes fun of my little 650... because its not fast, its not pretty but you know.. in the right hands on the track it will burn those 600s up. It is about the rider not the bike.. if my bike had a rider more capable than me then it would be more capable of great things. So don't ever think you need a 600 or a liter just because those are the most popular... choose a bike that speaks to you, takes care of you the way you take care of it, and you are comfortable with in whatever your purpose is.
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