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Old 05-03-2012, 01:30 AM   #121
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I actually diagree with them and their Campaign, but I absolutely admire their courage and determination. That's the beauty of a democratic process.

Democracy in America ain't perfect, but it works better than any other political system on earth.


Democracy is a joke. It is a system in which the votes of two idiots count more than the vote one one wise man.

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I am sure you obey the traffic laws just like the rest of us who have a sport bike. We know that you pay to play. Don't see anyone complaining about that.

What is total bull is seeing the over spending by law enforcement all under the justification of "keeping us safer". I really don't feel safer seeing an officer who would get winded walking a single flight of stairs do 120 to catch up to someone doing 80 in a 70 just to issue a citation.

If keeping us "safe" was the primary concern, all vehicles would be restricted to a top speed of ~70 mph.

If generating revenue to cover the overspending wasn't a concern then quotas wouldn't exist.

Cops can stop driving the police car home and pay for their commute (gas and vehicle) like the rest of us.

Other than that, I support law enforcement 100%.
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Im sure you dont haul in the ignorant peons who fail to pay off a registration ticket or overdue parking ticket.
Ignorance is no excuse. How hard is it to be a responsible person? If you're not smart enough to register your vehicle, then you don't deserve to be on the road with me. In case you didn't know, you must have the state minimum liability insurance on your vehicles as well.

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If keeping us "safe" was the primary concern, all vehicles would be restricted to a top speed of ~70 mph.
I don't think HPD has any authority on that
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Speaking of police equipment and unmarked cars I saw the strangest thing yesterday... On my way home I rolled up on a Grand Marquis with limo tint all the way around, no markings, no registration stickers, and a normal TX license plate. But, that's not the strange part. The vehicle had devices which looked like large (10"x4"x2") cameras mounted on the hood and trunk. The trunk device was pointed at the left side of the vehicle while the hood device was pointed right. My first thought was these were license plate scanners, but the devices were aimed at the side of the vehicle rather than forward/back or at an angle.

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Speaking of police equipment and unmarked cars I saw the strangest thing yesterday... On my way home I rolled up on a Grand Marquis with limo tint all the way around, no markings, no registration stickers, and a normal TX license plate. But, that's not the strange part. The vehicle had devices which looked like large (10"x4"x2") cameras mounted on the hood and trunk. The trunk device was pointed at the left side of the vehicle while the hood device was pointed right. My first thought was these were license plate scanners, but the devices were aimed at the side of the vehicle rather than forward/back or at an angle.

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That's probably for monitoring potholes rather than traffic enforcement
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Ignorance is no excuse. How hard is it to be a responsible person? If you're not smart enough to register your vehicle, then you don't deserve to be on the road with me. In case you didn't know, you must have the state minimum liability insurance on your vehicles as well.

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I was thinking Siberia
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middle earth Kansas is basically siberia, and according to , you'd still be in a police state nearly equeling siberia.
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kansas has plenty of missile silo's you can buy.
Ive looked at those... Dont have the money or the resources to turn this:

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But yes, Kansas has some cool places for sale...
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Alaska has some areas that are virtually police free
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middle earth Kansas is basically siberia, and according to , you'd still be in a police state nearly equeling siberia.
it wont come to that level if we can get the word out about the crooks in office, elect officials that are bound by the constitution and dont side step it, end the federal reserve and restore a sound monetary system, etc...
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Idaho and Texas seem to be the 2 highest ranking states in regards to personal freedoms

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Idaho scores higher in personal freedom than any of the three states above at #8. Why? Idaho does not allow sobriety checkpoints, has permissive gun control laws, requires only nine years of mandated schooling, and has virtually no regulation on private and home schooling. It also scores well on economic freedom, coming in at #4.

5. Texas

Texas is the highest-scoring of the top five in personal freedom (#5), thanks to policies like low alcohol regulation, sobriety checkpoint prohibition, and broad educational freedom. Texas also ranks well on the economic freedom scale. It has one of the smallest state governments in the country and low taxes. Further, the Lone Star State is the only state not to require employers to contribute to workers' compensation coverage.
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Democracy is a joke. It is a system in which the votes of two idiots count more than the vote one one wise man.

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I am sure you obey the traffic laws just like the rest of us who have a sport bike. We know that you pay to play. Don't see anyone complaining about that.

What is total bull is seeing the over spending by law enforcement all under the justification of "keeping us safer". I really don't feel safer seeing an officer who would get winded walking a single flight of stairs do 120 to catch up to someone doing 80 in a 70 just to issue a citation.

If keeping us "safe" was the primary concern, all vehicles would be restricted to a top speed of ~70 mph.

If generating revenue to cover the overspending wasn't a concern then quotas wouldn't exist.

Cops can stop driving the police car home and pay for their commute (gas and vehicle) like the rest of us.

Other than that, I support law enforcement 100%.
I get pulled over, too. At times, I do feel like PD in some jurisdiction aren't exactly 100% "fair". That ain't the political system at fault. That's human nature. I walked into traffic court in OKC once, and 90% of the folks there are either asian, black or latino (myself included). Do I find it odd? yes. Do I get all up-and-at-arms about it? No. I would not have been in the court house if I didn't break traffic law.

Law-abiding does not mean never getting a traffic ticket. It means accepting the consequences of one's own action - I pay when I violate.

You need to meet my PO neighbor. He is extremely fit and can probably take down Riddick Bowe if he resisted arrest. He and his family pursues the American Dream just like the rest of us. Doing a mighty good job at it might I add. BTW, he just bought a Road King, outfitted it with the skunk package, lights and all - ALL with his own dime to suppliment his regular income by doing escort job for cranes and funerals. His hardworking makes me look like a slacker.

Have you ever befriended a cop? No, they are not perfect and only human. So are all of us.
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You can build ANYTHING if you put you mind to it... and some elbow grease.

I built this house in OKC. Drew the plans myself. My wife and I erected the walls with nothing but our own two hands. The wall structure was designed to withstand a direct hit by a cat5 tornado. Plus the ability to stop a .50 cal round.

If you are in Edmund OKC, look up the builder Bill Roberts and ask him about the guy that built his own Polysteel home. That's me.

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That's extremely bada$$ dude. I do have plans on building my own place. My girls father has built some awesome stuff like yourself. He's a small business owner and a master craftsman. I stick around him long enough and I'll learn a few things
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That makes me a law-abiding citizen, the kind that the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution to protect against the likes of you.

Living free does not equate to acting freely with wanton disregard of the Law.

I respect the Consititution, as I respect the Law of the Land - whether I agree with it or not. As a citizen, I am actively involved in the democratic process - be at at my children's elementary school, or the homeowner association of my subdivision, all the way to national politics.

Are you?!
speaking out against our government and their law making/regulatory trends does not make me an anarchist or non law-abiding. When our government passes policies which directly conflict our constitutional rights I have every right to oppose and rally against them.

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In extremis, it may seem quixotic to question the constitutionality of the federal bailout-but it's essential nonetheless.

Even now some experts, including my colleagues at the Cato Institute, believe that alternative proposals (perhaps even constitutional proposals) could achieve the desired ends without socializing the financial sector and without establishing statist precedents that could haunt us for decades or longer.

Opponents of the bailout are unconvinced when media pundits and presidential candidates carp about the failure of deregulation, the need for immediate government intervention, and the final days of capitalism.
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Transparency in monetary policy is a goal we should all support. I’ve often wondered why Congress so willingly has given up its prerogative over monetary policy. Astonishingly, Congress in essence has ceded total control over the value of our money to a secretive central bank.

No governmental control= UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Lewis v. United States, 680 F.2d 1239 (1982)

the court ruled that the Federal Reserve Banks are "independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations", and there is not sufficient "federal government control over 'detailed physical performance' and 'day to day operation'" of the Federal Reserve Bank for it to be considered a federal agency:

Congressional Attempts to Control the Fed (quotes courtesy of site linked below - quotes not under copyright)

1937 Rep. Charles G. Binderup of Nebraska

1952 Rep. Wright Patman of Texas ( House Banking Chairman)

"In fact there has never been an independent audit of either the twelve banks of the Federal Reserve Board that has been filed with the Congress ... For 40 years the system, while freely using the money of the government, has not made a proper accounting."
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Although the way our political trends in this country are heading... I may be criminalized for this in the near future

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Only days after clearing Congress, US President Barack Obama signed his name to H.R. 347 on Thursday, officially making it a federal offense to cause a disturbance at certain political events — essentially criminalizing protest in the States.
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The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, [which the House of Representatives passed Friday], has privacy activists, tech companies, security wonks and the Obama administration all jousting about what it means – not only for security but Internet privacy and intellectual property. Backers expect CISPA to [be enacted], unlike SOPA, the Stop Online Piracy Act that melted down amid controversy earlier this year.

Here’s a rundown on the debate and what CISPA could mean for Internet users.

What exactly is CISPA?

The act, sponsored Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., and Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger, D-Md., would make it easier for private corporations and U.S.agencies, including military and intelligence, to share information related to “cyberthreats.” In theory, this would enable the government and companies to keep up-to-date on security risks and protect themselves more efficiently. CISPA would amend the National Security Act of 1947, which currently contains no reference to cyber security. Companies wouldn’t be required to share any data. They would just be allowed to do so.

Why should I care?

CISPA could enable companies like Facebook and Twitter, as well as Internet service providers, to share your personal information with the National Security Agency and the CIA, as long as that information is deemed to pertain to a cyber threat or to national security.

How does the bill define “cyber threat”?

The most recent version of the bill defines it as information “pertaining to a vulnerability of” a system or network — a definition that opponents have criticized as too broad…

When can data can be shared?

Rep. Rogers said the amended version of the bill would only enable companies and intelligence agencies to share information related to 1) cyber security purposes; 2) investigation and prosecution of cyber security crimes; 3)protection of individuals from death and bodily harm; 4) child ; or5) protection of the national security of the United States.

Why are privacy activists upset about CISPA?

Privacy activists like the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Frontier Foundation contend CISPA isn’t specific enough about just what constitutes a “cyber threat.” They say it enables Internet companies and service providers to hand over sensitive user information to intelligence agencies without enough oversight from the civilian side of government.Finally, they say it does not explicitly require Internet companies to remove identifying information about users before sharing. Opponents contend, for instance, that Facebook or Twitter could share user messages with the NSA or FBI without redacting the user’s name or personal details.

CISPA also protects the private sector from liability even if they share private user information, as long as that information is deemed to have been shared for cyber security or national security purposes. Even though sharing is voluntary and not required under the law, privacy activists say the legal immunity CISPA provides would make it easy for the government to pressure Internet companies to give up user data.
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speaking out against our government and their law making/regulatory trends does not make me an anarchist or non law-abiding. When our government passes policies which directly conflict our constitutional rights I have every right to oppose and rally against them.



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Although the way our political trends in this country are heading... I may be criminalized for this in the near future
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speaking out against our government and their law making/regulatory trends does not make me an anarchist or non law-abiding. When our government passes policies which directly conflict our constitutional rights I have every right to oppose and rally against them.
You won't find me saying no to someone actively working within our political system. As long as you respect the Law you may be opposing while it is still in effect, you are free to speak as loud as you wish. As a citizen of this nation, I will fight for your rights to free speech, even if I don't agree with you.

That is the essence of living in Freedom. In a Police State, you have NO freedom of speech and are subject to persecution if you speak up against the govment.
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Hey guys, I apologize if I were a bit too harsh on some of you. I do love this country of ours and just could not stand it being called a Police State.

The first time I heart my 7yr old sing the National Anthem, it darn near brought tears to my eyes.

In the end, there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to make our Country greater than it is, however different our methods may be. The tolerance for opposing viewpoints is what make it truly a free nation.
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