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Old 04-25-2012, 04:52 PM   #1
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Does a more expensive helmet offer better protection?

I'm curious about this. My HJC saved my life in march, there's no doubt about that. I've noticed all of the motoGP, SBK etc riders only wear Arai. Is that because of endorsements, aerodynamics and ergos, or do they offer any better impact protection/absorption?

Here's a pic of the main damage to my helmet from my spill.

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The rest is pretty banged up but I'm guessing this is the hit that really got me. My initial thought is it was the sudden stop that shook my brain hard enough for a TBI and the brain bleed, but if an Arai or other high end helmet offers even slightly more impact absorption it's worth looking into.
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I'd say a lot has to do with weight and venting...

I have a regular old kbc and its heavy as with no air movement even if all my cents are open.
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Rossi wears an AGV and Lorenzo wears a X-Lite.
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:02 PM   #4
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Rossi wears an AGV and Lorenzo wears a X-Lite.
Well hot . I must not have been paying enough attention
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I'd say a lot has to do with weight and venting...

I have a regular old kbc and its heavy as with no air movement even if all my cents are open.
+1 I've been searching for a new helmet and weight, venting, and noise is the only real difference in price, oh and just paying for the brand.
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I will not wear a 100 helmet at the track.. but I can't afford $900 helmet.
I seen some people pass the out right in front of me with some high end brand.
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A lot of Moto2 and Moto3 use Airoh also. It's made in Italy and is supposedly lighter than anything sold in the US.
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It is mainly comfort by weight and ventilation. Look for the SNELL M2010 certification or the ECE certification. Also the SHARP (lost the website link) tests indicate helmet safety.

Arai makes claims regarding greater safety, but their selling point for me is comfort.

The european version of a helmet will be lighter than the U.S. version. European versions don't meet the SNELL certification, which tends to make helmets heavier.
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I will not wear a 100 helmet at the track.. but I can't afford $900 helmet.
I seen some people pass the out right in front of me with some high end brand.
could be too restrictive leathers...kinda like a track corset
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So long as it is Snell approved.

I suppose unless it was a carbon helmet.
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The true answer is, like most things, not as simple as it seems. There differences beyond venting and graphics that influence price.
Part of it is name brand pricing and part has to do with construction. As far as which offers more protection...
It depends on which testing group you trust AND what kind of crash it's used in.
The high end helmets have stiffer outer shells which protect better in low speed impacts but the cheaper helmets have softer outer shells that protect better in high speed impacts.
The CE certified helmets (Euro testing) lean toward softer shells, while the Snell (American) certified helmets favor harder shells.
Bottom line is, if it passesit will be as safe as any other helmet that also passed the same standard.
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Do your research and find out how many "shell" sizes the manufacturer uses as well.
Some use 2 shell sizes and then compensate with pad sizing for XS-XL.

While padding is nice, you want to make sure your skull isn't gonna bang around inside the helmet itself that much. Same idea as the "double hit" boxers take because you get hit with the glove THEN the fist.
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the most important thing as far as protection goes is fit. a lot of people wear ill fitting helmets that put pressure points on their head. a proper fitting helmet will protect better as impact is more evenly distributed.

the price gap is due to lighter weight materials and better airflow of the upper end helmets. better airflow has a noise penalty though... but that is what ear plugs are for.
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i think any helmet above 300 bucks is generally good
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i think any helmet above 300 bucks is generally good
I could take a brain bucket and plate it in gold to make it cost $10k but wouldn't save your life worth a .

Price point isn't what saves your noggin. Go to a shop, get fitted and try on a bunch of different ones. Some of the cheaper brand might actually fit better than the higher end brands. For me, Shoei seems to fit the best, stock. Never played around with different cheek inserts and what not.
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I could take a brain bucket and plate it in gold to make it cost $10k but wouldn't save your life worth a .

Price point isn't what saves your noggin. Go to a shop, get fitted and try on a bunch of different ones. Some of the cheaper brand might actually fit better than the higher end brands. For me, Shoei seems to fit the best, stock. Never played around with different cheek inserts and what not.
eh whatever dude. I mean $300+ for a normal brand name helmet. No on getting the helmet fitted.
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I have seen quite a few people get concussions w hjc/suomy and lesser brands. Have not personally seen that w arai

I plan on going back to arai,

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The HJC was snell as well and fit good and snug. When I go see Patrick next I'll be sure and get the right fit and some info. Being a fairly cheap helmet it was very comfy and snug, and obviously did it's job so no complaints there, but doc says next head impact could be more traumatic, and since I'm not about to give up riding I want to make sure I do everything I can to protect myself next season. I'll also be wearing a collar to avoid any more broken clavicles lol.
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I have seen quite a few people get concussions w hjc/suomy and lesser brands. Have not personally seen that w arai

I plan on going back to arai,

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you can get a concussion with anything. a concussion results when your brain impacts the inside of your skull. no helmet will totally prevent that.
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you can get a concussion with anything. a concussion results when your brain impacts the inside of your skull. no helmet will totally prevent that.
^^^^he knows what he is talking about....
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