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Old 04-19-2012, 06:44 AM   #121
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Or better yet "use the bars to turn the bike"

Altho you DO have to turn opposite or countersteer to the direction you want to go...
Yea, but what parent teaches their child about counter steering when they're learning to ride a bicycle?
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Yea, but what parent teaches their child about counter steering when they're learning to ride a bicycle?
Better question is how many parents ride and have the knowledge to pass on???
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Better question is how many parents ride and have the knowledge to pass on???
My point is every child that knows how to ride a bicycle counter steers. It's subconscious. They don’t realize they're doing it.
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My point is every child that knows how to ride a bicycle counter steers. It's subconscious. They don’t realize they're doing it.
True... and then it carries on to a motorcycle, and they do fine..

Right up to the point they have to avoid something but instead turn straight into it.
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True... and then it carries on to a motorcycle, and they do fine..

Right up to the point they have to avoid something but instead turn straight into it.
But isn't that more of a target fixation problem?
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uhhmmm, in the Physics class I'm taking now it says that countersteering happens ABOVE 15mph. Doing speeds below that you'll have to turn the handlebar to the left to actually turn left and same to the right.

I dunno but as a parent of a 6 year old (while still learning to ride a bicycle) I wouldn't want my child to be pedalling above 5mph, so no countersteering applicable here?!? Just saying...
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uhhmmm, in the Physics class I'm taking now it says that countersteering happens ABOVE 15mph. Doing speeds below that you'll have to turn the handlebar to the left to actually turn left and same to the right.

I dunno but as a parent of a 6 year old (while still learning to ride a bicycle) I wouldn't want my child to be pedalling above 5mph, so no countersteering applicable here?!? Just saying...
I think what is being.implied is counter steering is effective above 15mph, not that it can't be done below that. Plus a bicycle weighs only a few pounds so countersteering is effective method below 15mph

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uhhmmm, in the Physics class I'm taking now it says that countersteering happens ABOVE 15mph. Doing speeds below that you'll have to turn the handlebar to the left to actually turn left and same to the right.

I dunno but as a parent of a 6 year old (while still learning to ride a bicycle) I wouldn't want my child to be pedalling above 5mph, so no countersteering applicable here?!? Just saying...
Are you really going to nitpick that point?
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Are you really going to nitpick that point?
of course not...
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uhhmmm, in the Physics class I'm taking now it says that countersteering happens ABOVE 15mph. Doing speeds below that you'll have to turn the handlebar to the left to actually turn left and same to the right.

I dunno but as a parent of a 6 year old (while still learning to ride a bicycle) I wouldn't want my child to be pedalling above 5mph, so no countersteering applicable here?!? Just saying...
So...
1. As a child you never rode a bike at more than 15 mph?
2. If you did, who taught you how to or even used the term counter steer?
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But isn't that more of a target fixation problem?
Nope.. its called instincts.

You drive a car 90% of the time, your habits are turn right to go right..

So a car pulls out and you need to make a quick left to miss him, and your instincts say "turn left".. so you make a quick right into the door.

Look at how many times someone t-boned a car in the door when there was room to avoid.. or the classic "had to lay the bike down"..

Even worse you think you have to lean with your body to turn..
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