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Old 04-18-2012, 04:34 PM   #101
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Exactly what Keith Code told us in class. We even did a drill with it to practice trying to "stand up" the bike to get on the throttle sooner coming out of the turn.
dude, what did that cost you?
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:02 PM   #102
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What is this? Amateur Hour?


You don't have to always have manual input to the bars. Bevo this was already explained to you by TMAX on HR.

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Old 04-18-2012, 05:44 PM   #103
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^^ lol..i would like to see someone pull that off at about 90mph on those corners..no hands...
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No Steering input...Body weight steering only... - YouTube

You don't have to always have manual input to the bars. Bevo this was already explained to you by TMAX on HR.
I do that on my bicycle all the time

And occasionally to air brake and change lanes at the same time.
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:14 PM   #105
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Gives me a pivot point..
For 180degree turns.

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Old 04-18-2012, 06:21 PM   #106
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dude, what did that cost you?
It was at Laguna Seca - $1600 for 2 days not including airfare to San Jose and rental car/hotel in Monterrey, CA. Only 20 riders split into two groups. While one group is on the track the other is in class with Code. BMW 1000RRs. 1 instructor, 2 students. There were two guys from Austin who were doing 4 days there.

Pricey but worth it.

Why put the knee down?

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Old 04-18-2012, 09:46 PM   #107
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It was at Laguna Seca - $1600 for 2 days not including airfare to San Jose and rental car/hotel in Monterrey, CA. Only 20 riders split into two groups. While one group is on the track the other is in class with Code. BMW 1000RRs. 1 instructor, 2 students. There were two guys from Austin who were doing 4 days there.

Pricey but worth it.

Why put the knee down?

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Laguna seca costs $800/day to ride on??
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No Steering input...Body weight steering only... - YouTube

You don't have to always have manual input to the bars. Bevo this was already explained to you by TMAX on HR.
the dude can turn that bike better than some of people with both hand on the bar....
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:32 PM   #109
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Laguna seca costs $800/day to ride on??
Well yeah as part of the course we attended. Me and a friend went to the Keith Code California Superbike school. They have them at other tracks too but we wanted to ride Laguna Seca. It was a 2 day course. You ride their BMW 1000RRs and only 20 students so your instructor is with you all day. 1 instructor 2 students. You do classroom lectures by Keith Code and then go practice what he is teaching out on the track with your instructors. They use video bikes to record you and you review it with your instructor.
Oh yeah, if you wreck their bike, you buy it. One guy had to buy his.
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The Keith Code theory is at higher speeds, at higher speeds it's really hard to steer with body steering, at lower speeds like in the video it's actually easy.
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The Keith Code theory is at higher speeds, at higher speeds it's really hard to steer with body steering, at lower speeds like in the video it's actually easy.
True. To about 70mph its fairly easy. After that, a push on the opposite bar in the turn would be necessary to hold the line and help straighten up.
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No such thing as body steering.. you are still causing the wheel to countersteer.

You CAN cause it to change directions with no bar input, but it ain't gonna get around a track or tight turn like that.

Try tightening up your damper and see how well it steers with no hands.

Watch the TOTW2 vid when they have the pointer on the tank.
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True. To about 70mph its fairly easy. After that, a push on the opposite bar in the turn would be necessary to hold the line and help straighten up.
Really, ok, you follow me on 3090 at 69 mph with no hands. Let me know when you're ready
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I did ride down Hwy 16 from Medina to Bandera with the cruise set at 55 with no hands.. had to loosen up my damper a tad after almost missing a turn tho...

But thats what happens when you are stuck behind a truck and a pack of Hardleys.. boredom sets in.
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Not the counter steering argument again!

yep.. kinda like the change of seasons.. it's news to somebody!
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I'd like to ban the term "counter steering" and just go with "steering"
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Or better yet "use the bars to turn the bike"

Altho you DO have to turn opposite or countersteer to the direction you want to go...
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Or better yet "use the bars to turn the bike"

Altho you DO have to turn opposite or countersteer to the direction you want to go...
You don't want to overload the noob brain as it enters a turn
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You don't want to overload the noob brain as it enters a turn
hasn't hurt you yet?


I'd rather start a noob off correct, then try and fix someone with 10 years or more "experience" who doesn't have a clue how the bike turns.

I am a firm believer that making it a habit can and will save you in an emergency situation.
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