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Old 12-26-2006, 01:56 PM   #1
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OK all you racers and track addicts.
I bought a used gsxr750 racebike. The guy I bought it from said that racers are going away from frame sliders.
He said that sure they protect your $400-500 body work but, when they dig in it destroys your $1500 frame where the sliders mount.
So, should we or should we not mount frame sliders on a "track only" bike?
I understand that street body work is MUCH more expensive so let's not even go there.
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Old 12-26-2006, 01:59 PM   #2
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I took my sliders and cut with a hack saw half way thru the mount bolts so that the would snop if they caught. I dont worry about the bodt work as much as i do the engine cases
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Frame sliders are for saving the frame, not the bodywork. If it does any good in that capacity, it is just a bonus. Metal frame sliders or frame sliders with metal inserts don't work well because they tend to not bend & absorb enrgy (impact). They transfer that energy into the frame thus breaking & bending the frame.
Delrin sliders bend & flex some to help absorb energy thus saving the frame. I've wrecked close to 100 mph at the track & the sliders have worked everytime.

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Old 12-26-2006, 02:59 PM   #5
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I say its a coin toss I have seen the good and the bad. I would not even consider using any type of metal, delrin is the only way to go but I have seen bent frames and cracked heads even from the delrin. I stay away from them myself but I have seen them do what they are supposed to and then some. I am sure someone will disagree with me but I wouldn't use them at the track especially.
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:46 PM   #7
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get the all plastic ones and have fun. those ****in metal ones suck monkeynuts
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maybe but when youve had as many crashes as i have on the track you know what works best. and the plastic ones are the way to go
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Your choice really. I have had good and bad experiences with sliders. They saved my 954 on the street but did not exactly help the 600RR at the track because they dug into the ground and it started flipping. Oh well. I am not really sure what I am doing on my new track bike either. Other then riding it.
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How do you know it was the frame slider that made it flip? It can happen lots of ways.
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How do you know it was the frame slider that made it flip? It can happen lots of ways.
Well I guess personally I really don't know since I had a concusion but, when the bike slides, then grabs in the dirt from what appeared to be a frame slider then flipped over.... I don't know.
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Frame sliders help protect the frame and engine cases.
On your GSXR, it's real easy to take out the stator and rotor, bending the crank in the process.

They can also make the difference between having to weld up your case or not.

I've seen some damage that can be attributed to frame sliders, but it's usually minor compared to what they prevented from happening.

Here's another way of looking at it; a stripped motor mount bolt or a broken motor mount frame ear won't end your day.

A cracked case or bent crank will.

Plus, it's a whole lot cheaper to reweld a frame ear / heli coil a motor mount than to weld up a cracked case.

Make sure to go with Delrin sliders.
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Well I guess personally I really don't know since I had a concusion but, when the bike slides, then grabs in the dirt from what appeared to be a frame slider then flipped over.... I don't know.
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More than likely it was your footpegs or handlebars that caused the flip.

If you think about it, frame sliders are torwards the middle of the bike, not giving them much leverage to be able to "flip" the bike
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If you think about it, frame sliders are torwards the middle of the bike, not giving them much leverage to be able to "flip" the bike[/QUOTE]


Good point Patrick, I hadn't thought about that. I suppose I should remove the broken piece of frame slider on the mount bolt and put some on again.
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Thanks everyone for your comments. I have sliders I guess I need to get off the old duff and go mount them.
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Yep, sign me up for some more sliders.
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