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Old 04-16-2012, 06:23 PM   #1
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Hello Team and sorry for the long rant.

Thinking about getting a cruiser as my next bike. I love the look and high technology of sportsbikes but just not for me, too much strain in my neck and the sitting position not comfortable at all (I'm 50) plus I like the convenience of having saddle bags and my new GF is totally hook in riding with me. My only concern is losing the power and fast acceleration that I currently enjoy in my present bike (2001 Triumph Speed Triple). A lot of people advise me about getting a Honda Shadow 750, I like the looks but I feel it's very under power. (Will I lost a lot of power going to a 750 cruiser?) I really like to accelerate fast specially when getting into the freeway.

I will like to keep my present power and torque (Speedtriple power output: 110PS (108bhp) at 9,200rpm. Peak torque: 97Nm (72lb.ft) at 6,200rp).

I guess to be able to keep close to this numbers I will have to get a "Power" cruiser like the Suzuki m109R, my only concern about this bike is: how often do you need to replace the rear tire? (My bike is my main mode of transportation and I put like 8,000 - 10,000 miles per year), the size of the m109r tire is 240 so I guess is an expensive tire. Same with my other favorite bike: Victory Hammer 8-ball (rear tire: 250). My two other preferred choices are the new Victory Judge (smaller rear tire: 140) and the HD V-Rod series (also big rear tire). Other two bikes that I also like but they are not made anymore are the Honda VTX 1800 and the Yamaha Vstar Warrior. Any ideas about what other bikes to look for?

This is my present setup:

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i just got a shadow 750 after stepping off a busa for 6 years.. it is a big change. but i love the comfort.. a bit under powered considering what i was riding.. but i will get use to it.. handling is more of a change than the power curve.. soon as i get a few more miles on it.. it will be fine.. good luck.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:25 PM   #3
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WOW!!! What a change! I'm also a big fan of the Busa but not sure about the ergonomics and for carrying a passenger.
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I have a M109R, I love this thing! I was riding a GSXR 600, and the 9 performs just as good, and handles surprisingly well even with a 250mm rear tire. The tires you can find on special most places and wear is usually dependent on how well you maintain the pressure. I am running a dunlop elite 3 right now but haven't had it long enough to give you a life span. I love the nine, it was everything I expected and more.
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I feel naked on the little 750's. Not nearly enough get up n go.

The Kawasaki Mean Streak rides very well for a cruiser

Not a fan of the Harley transmissions (or price)

Victory is nice if you've got the budget

Yamaha Raiders and warriors are quick
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suzu600r- That is a nice looking ride. There are so many choices these days. I am an old geezer and have been riding Harleys for about 35 years and am pretty set in my ways. It just all depends on how much cruising you want to do. The goldwing is about the top dog but the performance is just not quite there. I ride a Road King and I can sit on it for 8 hours and still able to function. The key is to have one of each. It seems like trying to mix them both in one bike just dont get it. Good luck on your search. We have a bad country. Get out and see it. You wont regret it one bit.
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I would love an M109R
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SKIP THE SHOWROOM floor, keep your wallet in your pocket and buy a nice used set up....like the one I'm selling for my old man.

plenty of horsie's to get you up and going with 92 cubic inches.

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What about a Yamaha max?

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If I were to get a cruiser it wuld prbably be the M109R
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I can appreciate your thought process. I like cruisers, but don't want to ride an 800lbs elephant. When I decided to start riding again last yr, I wanted a cruiser first to ease back into it. I looked around and I just could not understand why cruisers these day must all weight 800 lbs, even for a 900. And why they all have to have forward controls that kick your legs wayyy out there? That's where the highway pegs used to be.

May be I am just permanently stuck in the '80's power cruiser scene, where bikes were powerful and relatively lightweight. Plus they handled quite well back in those days. I ended up buying a leftover '08 Suzuki S83 and thought I went back to Miami Vice Heaven. I would keep it, but my CFO wants my herd thinned, or else...

Anyhow, you might also want to look at the Triumph Thunderbird, especially the Storm version. HD made a version of the V-Rod called Street Rod, that had sane foot control positions, USD forks, Brembo brakes and surprisingly good ground clearance. Unfortunately, they only made it for two yrs, 05 and 06 IIRC.

Don't overlook the original V-Max. I almost bought a mint '05 with very few miles on it, but again, my wife exercised her Veto power. Gotta love her, though. I would end up with 17 bikes in the garage if it weren't for her.
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SKIP THE SHOWROOM floor, keep your wallet in your pocket and buy a nice used set up....like the one I'm selling for my old man.

plenty of horsie's to get you up and going with 92 cubic inches.

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=218927
Danny: Thanks for the link. Seems a very good price but not my style (I'm looking more into something like the Victory Hammer) GLWS to your Dad.
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Hello Team and sorry for the long rant.

Thinking about getting a cruiser as my next bike. I love the look and high technology of sportsbikes but just not for me, too much strain in my neck and the sitting position not comfortable at all (I'm 50) plus I like the convenience of having saddle bags and my new GF is totally hook in riding with me. My only concern is losing the power and fast acceleration that I currently enjoy in my present bike (2001 Triumph Speed Triple). A lot of people advise me about getting a Honda Shadow 750, I like the looks but I feel it's very under power. (Will I lost a lot of power going to a 750 cruiser?) I really like to accelerate fast specially when getting into the freeway.

I will like to keep my present power and torque (Speedtriple power output: 110PS (108bhp) at 9,200rpm. Peak torque: 97Nm (72lb.ft) at 6,200rp).

I guess to be able to keep close to this numbers I will have to get a "Power" cruiser like the Suzuki m109R, my only concern about this bike is: how often do you need to replace the rear tire? (My bike is my main mode of transportation and I put like 8,000 - 10,000 miles per year), the size of the m109r tire is 240 so I guess is an expensive tire. Same with my other favorite bike: Victory Hammer 8-ball (rear tire: 250). My two other preferred choices are the new Victory Judge (smaller rear tire: 140) and the HD V-Rod series (also big rear tire). Other two bikes that I also like but they are not made anymore are the Honda VTX 1800 and the Yamaha Vstar Warrior. Any ideas about what other bikes to look for?

This is my present setup:

DSCF5297
Have you looked at the Harley V ROD or Nigth Rods , plenty of power & comfortable .
I rode my friend's V Rod & it is nice .
I own a 1300 V Star & it is a good reliable bike.
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Have you looked at the Harley V ROD or Nigth Rods , plenty of power & comfortable .
I rode my friend's V Rod & it is nice .
I own a 1300 V Star & it is a good reliable bike.
Any of the V-ROD models will make me a happy camper. Second option will be the M109R. Also in consideration the Victory Hammer and the Honda VTX 1800C (I wonder why Honda stop production in 2008)

Have not research the V Star 1300 Will check it out. Thanks
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I spent a week on a VTX1800 and I hated it. I was nice to look at but not that comfortable. Also being used to sports bikes, the red line seemed way low. It hit the rev limiter just about the time it felt like it was starting to move. I vote for the Gen I VMax. It will have plenty of power to keep you happy
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Any of the V-ROD models will make me a happy camper. Second option will be the M109R. Also in consideration the Victory Hammer and the Honda VTX 1800C (I wonder why Honda stop production in 2008)

Have not research the V Star 1300 Will check it out. Thanks
if you are tall , you might like the forward postion of the V Rods, your legs are pretty forward , my buddy is a taller guy around 6 ft. , it fits him pretty good.
Me, I am 5ft. 6 in. & the VStar is a comfportable ride for me , nice highway power for a cruiser.
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