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Old 06-19-2012, 11:07 AM   #41
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:03 AM   #46
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So.....now that you have spoken about which tire you prefer, can you testify to Dunlop's claim that their tire does not go through "heat cycles"? And what brand of tire warmer do you prefer?
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we did a 6hr endurance race on R10's. i liked them. plenty of grip, and priced just right. towards the end of the race, one of our teammates felt like the tire was giving out. another teammate and myself felt the tire was fine and would have kept riding on it, but hey, it wasn't our bike. good tire for sure.

i've ridden on the NTEC front, and they feel fine. i dig the profile, makes the bike dive into corners, and they last a long time.

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So.....now that you have spoken about which tire you prefer, can you testify to Dunlop's claim that their tire does not go through "heat cycles"? And what brand of tire warmer do you prefer?
myself, i run LP 'hot sox' warmers. they're cheap, $160ish shipped to my door, and they've outlasted a buddies $400 woodcraft warmers. racer on a budget FTW!

but whatever, these are the ramblings of a slow as molasses novice.
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Old 06-21-2012, 11:13 PM   #50
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Because I love these p*ssing in the wind threads, I'm going to ask the question, just how fast are you?

The very sticky, top level DOT rubber like UK NTECS and R10s are great tires, but unless you are running CMRA expert pace (not "advanced" or "L3" track day pace), you probably don't need them.

More, unless you are an expert racer, people like Keith Code will probably say that they are holding back your riding because you will probably not be able to break them loose and slide them and use them right, the way the experts do. The thinking here goes that at a certain level, a novice's love of traction works against the rider's development. Keith Code thinks average rider should be on average rubber, so that they can get a feel for the limits of traction. That's how come experts go so freaking fast on the best rubber: they can push them to the limits of traction because they have already learned what that feels like.

If you think this is BS, just check out the pace that AJFlo, our local fast "novice" () and the high priest of the shagged tire, is running in the CRMA this year. I'm throwing this out there because I'm going to listen to Keith Code and AJ, and give this a shot to see if that can take my own mid-pack CMRA novice pace to the next level. And I'm going to be saving a bit of money on tires too!
Makes sense. I've never heard it like that before. I'm an upper lvl2 rider at BEST and still on Q2's. I haven't had a problem from them even on my 5th TD and 5500 street miles on them. They are great once you get some real heat in them. I'm on my second set now about to do my 3rd TD on this set and not even thinking about switching to NTECs anytime soon.
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Because I love these p*ssing in the wind threads, I'm going to ask the question, just how fast are you?

The very sticky, top level DOT rubber like UK NTECS and R10s are great tires, but unless you are running CMRA expert pace (not "advanced" or "L3" track day pace), you probably don't need them.

More, unless you are an expert racer, people like Keith Code will probably say that they are holding back your riding because you will probably not be able to break them loose and slide them and use them right, the way the experts do. The thinking here goes that at a certain level, a novice's love of traction works against the rider's development. Keith Code thinks average rider should be on average rubber, so that they can get a feel for the limits of traction. That's how come experts go so freaking fast on the best rubber: they can push them to the limits of traction because they have already learned what that feels like.

If you think this is BS, just check out the pace that AJFlo, our local fast "novice" () and the high priest of the shagged tire, is running in the CRMA this year. I'm throwing this out there because I'm going to listen to Keith Code and AJ, and give this a shot to see if that can take my own mid-pack CMRA novice pace to the next level. And I'm going to be saving a bit of money on tires too!
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we did a 6hr endurance race on R10's. i liked them. plenty of grip, and priced just right. towards the end of the race, one of our teammates felt like the tire was giving out. another teammate and myself felt the tire was fine and would have kept riding on it, but hey, it wasn't our bike. good tire for sure.

i've ridden on the NTEC front, and they feel fine. i dig the profile, makes the bike dive into corners, and they last a long time.



myself, i run LP 'hot sox' warmers. they're cheap, $160ish shipped to my door, and they've outlasted a buddies $400 woodcraft warmers. racer on a budget FTW!

but whatever, these are the ramblings of a slow as molasses novice.
No team but yours could have went 6 hours on any rear tire.. much less an R10.
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No team but yours could have went 6 hours on any rear tire.. much less an R10.
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No team but yours could have went 6 hours on any rear tire.. much less an R10.
Oh come on Brandt, you guys can't even keep the bike running long enough to wear a tire out.......
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As of a month ago I made the switch to the American Dunlop Slicks. $399 + tax a set.

I started out on Bridgestones, rode my friend Larrys bike which had Pirellis and liked them a lot better. And I loved the front. So I ran Pirellis my only Novice season. I loved the front but the rear just would not last as I got faster. So I started trying other brands to find a longer lasting rear tire.

I tired the Michelins and then the American Dunlops. But I didnt like either of the fronts. I hadn't tried the UK Dunlops yet. So at first I ran the Pirelli front with the Dunlop rear. lol Won my first expert race at Oakhill with a Pirelli front and a Dunlop GPA rear.

When I finally tried the UK's I was so happy, I liked both the front and rear and the tires lasted along time. Rode the UK dunlops about 4 years.

Now the American Slicks are on par with the UK slicks so I have made the switch! The American front is awesome now. Best bang for the buck. Excellent grip with longevity, and longevity while maintaining grip is very important to me. I don't want to have to slow down and be careful after half a trackday.

At my pace I can run 3 days and be happy with my rear Dunlop tire. 6 days on the front.
I can not do a full day on another brand rear and be happy. The rears would always lose to much grip in the first day.

As far as fronts go I like both the Dunlop and Pirelli, both are by far the best fronts out there.
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My last rear tire was a take off from Whoop ( uk dot ) and ran the out of it for 2 days at TWS (Texas World Speedway) , I expected it to be totally gone but loading it up I was amazed it had tread left, I rode it one more time at MSRH.
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