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Old 04-13-2012, 03:55 PM   #1
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Question Yamaha VMAX vs Ducati Diavel

An interesting thing happened the other day while visiting Mancuso. After recently purchasing a new bike I found myself looking at another one (this bike bug is hitting me really bad). While I was waiting for my salesman to finish a conversation with someone else I found myself drawn to the Ducati section. In particular the Diavel. After looking at it for a few seconds my salesman (let's call him Daniel) took the opportunity to provide some interesting facts about the bike. Firstly, I would like to add that I am presently looking for a second bike in the crusier domain. My heart was set on the Yamaha VMAX, but after the conversation with Daniel, I might be having second thoughts. Daniel proceeded to explain that the Diavel was cheaper (the base model not the carbon or cromo models), and also had more ponies than the VMAX. Even more interesting was the fact that the VMAX was "special order only". He even offered me a test ride if I was interested. I have always liked Ducati but for the namesake not based on experience. Any thoughts?
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Personally I don't care for the aesthetics of either one. I like to old VMax much better. Anyway, I thought the VMax had more power but weighed a lot more so the Ducati ended up being a hare quicker.
There are two Diavels here where I work.
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Personally I don't care for the aesthetics of either one. I like to old VMax much better. Anyway, I thought the VMax had more power but weighed a lot more so the Ducati ended up being a hare quicker.
There are two Diavels here where I work.
Do you work downtown? I've seen an RC and two Diavels in my building.
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Do you work downtown? I've seen an RC and two Diavels in my building.
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I must admit, those bikes look great. I love the overstyling of the VMAX (it just looks so menacing). The Diavel on the other hand has a more modern aggressive look that is equally awesome. Of course it won't have that signature Ducati "rattle", but who cares, right?
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Diavel handles better if thats any help..Both good bikes. Plus.diavel has different.engine.modes.
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The GEN1 V-MAX was the first bike I looked for when I got back to riding last yr. I was none to pleased to find Yamaha had done turned GEN2 into a 1700cc 700 lbs montrocity. Yeah, it is fast and handled better than GEN1, but does it really need all that bulk?! Doesn't help that it's $20k. All Yamaha had to do was update the original 1200cc with FI and better suspenders, price it around $12-15k. They still wouldn't sell that many of them, cus it's a niche bike at best. But they would've sold a lot more than the GEN2, which is special order only because dealers had such a hard time unloading the first - and prolly only - one they ordered.

Diavel comes very close to what I'd envisioned the "real" GEN2 V-MAX should have been - except for the chain drive. A proper power cruise has got to have shaft drive. It had the exact same ergonomics as the typical power cruisers of the '80s and early 90's. My old Maxim 650 and 700 were very similar. Great bike. Just not the flavor of tea I'd like to sip right now.
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Get last months edition of Superbike magazine. They do a head to head comparison of these bikes. I haven't had a chance to read it myself but it might help even if it's a journo's perspective.
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If you are looking at new, one thing to ask a stealer is how much to do the services on each? I heard on some duc owners that the service work is crazy money.
If you are looking for a used V-max i can maybe help you with that.
I know of a peep or 2 that paid around 15k otd for their new max.
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If you are looking at new, one thing to ask a stealer is how much to do the services on each? I heard on some duc owners that the service work is crazy money.
If you are looking for a used V-max i can maybe help you with that.
I know of a peep or 2 that paid around 15k otd for their new max.
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Fwiw the diavel has the longest valve service interval for Ducati.
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"Daniel" has tried to up-sell me aggressively several times: he is never going to sell me a bike. So, be careful.
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Daniel and the Macuso SW guys are great salesmen. And I do mean that in the best sense of the word. They are the to sell you a bike, plain and simple. Nothing wrong with them doing their job, as long as you know what you want and communicate that to them.

The Diavel is quite possibly the least "Ducati" of the current Ducatis. That actually is appealing to me, as I never did find the prototypical Ducati much to my liking. Great bikes, just not my cup of tea.
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