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Old 04-10-2012, 10:33 PM   #41
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Bear in mind also that mileage affects resale value of bikes far more than cars. 30k miles on a car isn't that big a deal. 30k miles on a bike is the kiss of death. Unless you commute on a cheap bike and can totally disregard depreciation, you best work the resale value loss into you math.
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:37 PM   #42
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My bike has been my primary mode of transportation for a good 5 years. I was looking at the price of gas when it hit 1.80 and parked my civic and rode the 650r which got upwards of 45-50mpg. Besides its more fun on two wheels
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Bear in mind also that mileage affects resale value of bikes far more than cars. 30k miles on a car isn't that big a deal. 30k miles on a bike is the kiss of death. Unless you commute on a cheap bike and can totally disregard depreciation, you best work the resale value loss into you math.
Both of my bikes are atleast 11yrs old, they already have no resale value.. I don't plan on ever selling them...if so, it's not THAT big of a loss.
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If I were riding just to save money, I would certainly pick another bike. I would choose something like a Ninja 250 or maybe a scooter. When non-riders say that I must be saving a lot of gas money, I just agree with them. I never get into the costs of tires/chains/etc. I used to run errands for a company I worked for and got paid mileage. They suggested paying me less per mile because I was riding. They couldn't do that, but I did bring up the cost and life of my tires lol.
True....that is basically the conclusion I came to a few years ago.. Tires, chains, maintenance will eat up most of the cost savings from fuel. But with gas prices soaring, I think you can still come out better by riding....especially if you ride a smaller bike.

For me, a 1000 is as small as I can go. .. I'll just have to switch to touring type tires and really stay on chain maintenance to get the most out of them.

My commute is mostly highway so it is a bit easier on chains/brakes but it is a tire killer...

We'll see though. I know I won't ride every day, not even close but if I can ride atleast 85% of the time, I should see an immediate savings and have fun doing it...not to mention cutting thru traffic like ninja.
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I've been commuting to work for years just for fun, not to save anything.
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I too did the math and while my Accord gets 25mpg (avg) and my bike gets 50mpg (avg), the savings are nearly dismissed by chain/tire costs. I don't drive to work (I work from home) but I do drive to gym and to lunch and dinner Monday through Friday. Each day, I commute about 150miles.

CAR: 150 miles / 25mpg = 6 gallons @ $4/gallon = $24/day

Let's just say on average $20/gas per day and a bike is half of that ($10)

Then we start to factor in costs...

CAR: 150mi/day x 20 days/month = 3000/month
TIRES changed every 20k mi @ $500 for tires = about $80/month
OIL changed every 5k mi @ $15 = $10/month
$90/month in maintenance costs
3000mi/month divided by 25mpg @ $4/gallon = $480/month gas
COMBINED MONTH DRIVING = $570/month

BIKE: 150mi/day x 20 days/month = 3000/month
TIRES changed every 7.5k rear 15k front is $450/15k mi = $90
CHAIN/SPROCKETS: changed every 15k mi @ $200 = $40
OIL changed every 5k mi @ $40 = $30
$160/month maintenance costs
3000mi/month divided by 50mpg @ $4/gallon = $240/month gas
COMBINED MONTH RIDING = $400/month

So not figuring anything else into the equation, I could save $170/month by riding instead of driving everday. While that may sound appealing to some, the reality is I don't want to ride *everyday* to gym/restaurants. Somedays I like AC and no gear and somedays I like getting places faster.
Where do you find the need to spend 160 a month in maint? I had a 650R with over 50k on it, bought it new and never spent that much a month lol. Had a valve adjustment and replaced the engine somewhere around 40+K. Total cost was around 800 over the course of 5 years. Oil changes cost me the oil and filter not 40, tires cheaper when you remove the rims yourself and bring it in. Etc etc
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Ive never had a "just don't feel like riding" kind of day...
+1 but i dnt see any gas savings... i ride abt 50 miles a day round trip and i fill up the tank almost everyday lol
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Old 04-11-2012, 07:05 AM   #48
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well.....i figure last weekend was one of a therapy then..lmao...I saw #8 bike on the ground every 10 minutes..
I think I dropped #8 more like every five minutes, but it wasn't my bike & I was getting it out of my system...& getting some therapy. BTW, you don't have anything to gloat about, the Super Pole times don't lie
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I don't care about the savings, but I ride when I want too
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True....that is basically the conclusion I came to a few years ago.. Tires, chains, maintenance will eat up most of the cost savings from fuel. But with gas prices soaring, I think you can still come out better by riding....especially if you ride a smaller bike.

For me, a 1000 is as small as I can go. .. I'll just have to switch to touring type tires and really stay on chain maintenance to get the most out of them.

My commute is mostly highway so it is a bit easier on chains/brakes but it is a tire killer...

We'll see though. I know I won't ride every day, not even close but if I can ride atleast 85% of the time, I should see an immediate savings and have fun doing it...not to mention cutting thru traffic like ninja.
I wanna see you with touring tires. I have to call BS on that. And yes, my is still running
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I ride as much as possible, but have times that I can't and try to avoid rain, especially on the way to work. Gas and maint. savings are a wash but like some others, the toll $$ savings is big. The biggest thing I've noticed is how relaxed I am when I ride to work. I guess on the bike I just expect drivers to blow, in my truck it's more of a "WTF!!! How did you not see a bright red crew cab truck before jacking me off!!!".
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This month (well, got my license on the 22nd... so almost there) marks one year of riding as much as possible to work/school. If it wasn't raining in the morning I rode... cause well, houston forecast SUCKS. I leave early to avoid the morning heat/traffic and therefore get to leave just before traffic in the afternoon (mostly).
The commute to UofH from Katy is MUCH nicer on the bike. As is parking at UofH.

I've put 18,600 miles on the 650r (50mpg)
6,300 on my s10 blazer. (16mpg)

I don't know if the bike is cheaper with all the costs added up, but I keep my sanity. I think if you're already gonna own one, then it's cheaper... if you are buying a bike thinking it will be drastically cheaper than a car, it won't be.

Just the quick look at my phone app says that the average cost of "other costs" per month comes to $156. That includes Chain/sprockets, oil changes, spark plugs, insurance ($29 a month), and registration. Keep in mind, it'll need new tires fairly soon.

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I am fully anticipating cutting my fuel expense on my commute alone about $150-200 per month.... thats a new bike payment alone.

My current truck gets 13.5 mpg on average and I drive 48 miles per day.... My 1000 gets about 33 mpg...it will be a fun experiment to try to see how much $$ I can get and not away to the pumps....not to mention get to ride every day..(when its not raining)..
Now, if you consider something like a 650r or sv650... you could get 50mpg



Regarding the depreciation comment by Volfy... If your bike is less than $5k, it can't depreciate too much. My bike was $4k, and just about any bike will bottom out at $1500. I pretty plan on the ride it till it dies method. But yeah, I'd have problems putting 20k a year on a new $10k+ ducati.
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ya'll are lucky.

My IS gets better gas mileage than my R6 I'm pretty sure.
Guess I'm still dumping fuel....
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its not about the MPG for me, my bike gets ~28mpg, so my little car get better

its about being on the bike vs car.

i would imagine your car/bike get similar mpg
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I think for the most part it's therapy vs a money savings thing. My truck gets 16 mpg but sometimes I wanna be able to talk to my parents on the way to work since they don't live here. I work 10-12 hr shifts and sometimes I just don't feel like messing around with my gear. I just want to get in and hurry home.
I ride a TL (not everday do you ride one of these) Generally I have much better days at work. I really believe its a therapy. I have a really stressful job and I have to dress in business attire even tough I have an office where I keep some toiletries and extra clothes.
I guess for me it's a coin flip. Even though the summer is coming and the coin will be landing on the truck side more often.
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ya'll are lucky.

My IS gets better gas mileage than my R6 I'm pretty sure.
Guess I'm still dumping fuel....
holy cow. fix that. my IS300 averages 20 mpg in the city....


i ride everyday rain or shine... i average about 40 -45 mpg on the r6 if i ride conservatively.... saves me $$
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:32 AM   #58
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I ride most of time for this time of year.
It is something to look froward to in riding to & from work.
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when I bought my bike it was purely for recreation. But now that I've moved to Houston and I commute 50-60 miles a day in a 96 4wd 2dr Tahoe I've been making an effort to ride whenever possible. I've done all my owns mods and shaped this bike into what I wanted so I don't really ever see myself selling it.
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