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Old 04-08-2012, 10:31 PM   #21
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Rossi possibly saw promise in the Ducati design. That and the offer of a large contract is probably what did it. Problem is, Ducati doesn't have the advantage of a motor that is easy on tires as it does in WSB. I think it probably has the muscle to keep up down the straights but loses out in the corners.
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Old 04-08-2012, 10:43 PM   #22
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Moto3 starting grid sounded a lot like TMGP!

Marquez move was legit.. I wanted Luthi to win it though.
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OH, and I love that tire wear is back to playing a part in MotoGP!!! Race strategy FTW!
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Old 04-08-2012, 11:19 PM   #24
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Moto2 was amazing race. Motogp was ok, Stoner definetly hd the faster bike, but he wore his tires too soon. I can't wait for the next race.
+1 Moto2 much more fun to watch today.
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Old 04-08-2012, 11:47 PM   #25
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Haven't watched Moto3 yet

Moto2 Marquez is the best racer there. He will be champion this year just like he should've been last season. He is the kid to beat!! his move on Luthi was nothing but clean. If he didn't like it then why be out there racing. Luthi should've just backed off or try to slow down to get him in another turn.

Rossi isn't done. Hopefully they get the POS Ducati going good In the next few races and find a setup close or better to the one from the Sepang test where he was just .7 off stoners times. If not Hopefully Rossi will get another ride with some other team next season.

As you see Hayden qualified good and finished 6th in the opener and that's good! Next race in Jerez hopefully things get better for Ducati.
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Not so much tire wear as electronics and chatter.

Sad to say but it's got to the point where the engineers have as much if not more control over the race as the riders.

You can hear and watch expecially the Hondas.. Stoner was just whacking the throttle open mid corner and the motor was flat while the traction control was waiting..

I would really like to see some of the electronics pulled out and the real "riders" allowed to show their stuff, but that won't happen.

Stoner had severe arm pump from the chatter and so did Spies... all due to a bad electronic setup on the bikes.
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havent watched moto3 yet...moto2 pretty much picked up where it left off with all the position changes, hoepfully iannone keeps things interesting up front

motogp was ehhh, same as last yr with a few getting away at the front.. cal made a good showing aswell as hayden and edwards being the top crt rider. hopefully spies will get things worked out, hayden continue to improve his duc and rossi....well idk, lol
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I read a post that spies had crashed 2 times that weekend and under the new 1 bike limit, was racing the same bike so it was giving him issues.
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Interesting read on CRT....for those of us who didn't really understand the whole thing

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/817/11...n-MotoGP-.aspx
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Moto2 Marquez is the best racer there. He will be champion this year just like he should've been last season. He is the kid to beat!! his move on Luthi was nothing but clean. If he didn't like it then why be out there racing. Luthi should've just backed off or try to slow down to get him in another turn.

Rossi isn't done. Hopefully they get the POS Ducati going good In the next few races and find a setup close or better to the one from the Sepang test where he was just .7 off stoners times. If not Hopefully Rossi will get another ride with some other team next season.

As you see Hayden qualified good and finished 6th in the opener and that's good! Next race in Jerez hopefully things get better for Ducati.
i think ducati did as well as they did bc qatar has one of hte longest straights of all hte tracks which allowed them to keep up ... tighter track will see them fall behind
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I read a post that spies had crashed 2 times that weekend and under the new 1 bike limit, was racing the same bike so it was giving him issues.

^^ this.. saw he went down qualifying at qatar
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^^ this.. saw he went down qualifying at qatar
And it was only his second time racing that track....ever.
WSBK doesn't race there.
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Not so much tire wear as electronics and chatter.

Sad to say but it's got to the point where the engineers have as much if not more control over the race as the riders.

You can hear and watch expecially the Hondas.. Stoner was just whacking the throttle open mid corner and the motor was flat while the traction control was waiting..

I would really like to see some of the electronics pulled out and the real "riders" allowed to show their stuff, but that won't happen.

Stoner had severe arm pump from the chatter and so did Spies... all due to a bad electronic setup on the bikes.

Only rider in history who only loses a couple of tenths with arm pump, I call BS on that....
more like he paid for being the only top flight rider who didn't run full race simulations in practice and testing!!! unlike Jlo who did so many Ryder lost count....
madness

and you know my view, remove all the rider aids
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I read a post that spies had crashed 2 times that weekend and under the new 1 bike limit, was racing the same bike so it was giving him issues.
The MotoGP class doesn't have a single bike rule (yet)


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And it was only his second time racing that track....ever.
WSBK doesn't race there.
Yes they do. Spies got Pole position and won both races his first time at the track with WSBK.


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Old 04-09-2012, 10:00 AM   #35
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The MotoGP class doesn't have a single bike rule (yet)

Sorry, takes efffect for the 2013 season. Spies had posted on twitter that he was using the same bike. Possibly a team decision to go with 1 bike.



Yes they do. Spies got Pole position and won both races his first time at the track with WSBK.



WSB dropped Qatar in 2010 - Spies first year in MotoGP. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Spies only have 1 year in WSB taking rookie of the year and world title? Either way, he would have ridden the track every year from 2009 to present as '09 was the last WSB year and MotoGP opeing round has been there for some time now.
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1. What do you think of Moto3? Think WWII fighter planes, loved it!!
2. Marquez's move on Luthi??? Iffy at best,
3. Is Rossi done? Doubtful, but he is making a lot of excuses... And if the bike is that bad, then why is Hayden able to fight for better positions... Too early to tell though..
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his move on Luthi was nothing but clean. If he didn't like it then why be out there racing. Luthi should've just backed off or try to slow down to get him in another turn.
have you ever raced? If so, I bet you would change your comment here. While Marquez is a great rider he is too aggressive at times. He could have passed Luthi any time he wanted. He didnt have to do it the way he did it. He basically pushed Luthi off track. And if you see the way he swerved into other riders, same thing Herrin got sat down for. I think they should encourage him to do things a little less agressively. Not saying he is dirty, just very aggressive.
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Only rider in history who only loses a couple of tenths with arm pump, I call BS on that....


and you know my view, remove all the rider aids
because he's a bad ! even with the chatter and severe arm pump, he was able to pull a gap after he backed off. To still get 3rd (and lead the majority of the race) with arm pump so bad he couldn't even get his gloves off at the end of the race is impressive

and I agree with taking off at least some of the rider aids, but then stoner would just win by that much more. we all know what happens when lorenzo rides without TC....
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Ducati started developing this bike last year when Rossi was sucking, he was racing on the 1000 frame with an 800cc engine. They had a head start on everyone, it isn't money related they just don't know what the they are doing over there I guess. Rossi is leaving motogp soon, he already raced intermittently for Ferrari and he signed for a full GT season this year, he is headed for car racing. Most of the front runners had traction control turned down, and to the guy who posted the pic of jlo flying lets see what you do mid corner and the TC just shuts off without warning. Stoner has crashed on a sighting lap, not gonna bring that up? Lol

Marquez' pass was not dirty, but it could've been a lot cleaner. He intentionally made it so luthi couldn't charge back.
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And it was only his second time racing that track....ever.
WSBK doesn't race there.
too bad.. I was expecting a better performance by spies as well as rossi's.. maybe in jerez

somehow I kinda believe is some sort of strategy to conserve engine.. either yami and Duc do it.. still holding higher positions on the table with the other team racers.. what you think ?

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