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Old 04-08-2012, 05:48 PM   #1
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1. What do you think of Moto3? Noise is a bit strange, eh?

2. Marquez's move on Luthi???

3. Is Rossi done?
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1. interesting

2. luthi needs more

3. rossi and spies sucked today.. wtf ? is it really the bikes or strategy?
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3. rossi and spies sucked today.. wtf ? is it really the bikes or strategy?
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great energy for those first 2 races !!! should be a great season.

Rossi- still needs work. not out though

Marquez last two moves where awesome (w) is a (w)
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Rossi and Ben need to get their together. CRT teams are what I thought, slow. Call them a "development" team if you want but when a 1000cc machine is turning the same lap times as a 600cc control engine bike, something is amiss. Just saying. Moto2 qualifying times were 2:00 and some change. CRT teams were running 2:01 race times.
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Rossi and Ben need to get their together. CRT teams are what I thought, slow. Call them a "development" team if you want but when a 1000cc machine is turning the same lap times as a 600cc control engine bike, something is amiss. Just saying. Moto2 qualifying times were 2:00 and some change. CRT teams were running 2:01 race times.
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Moto 2 is awesome as always, Marquez move on Luthi? I think it was ballsy but still good, this is racing, I can't believe Luthi slapped Marc lol.

MotoGP kinda sucked, boring.

I haven't watch Moto3 yet.
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I have a feeling that Moto2 and 3 will be the shows to watch. GP will be another Stoner and Lorenzo show I'm afraid. Factory Yamaha and Honda at the least. Tech3 will be there to spoil the show from time to time. Especially with the performance Crutchlow put on.
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Moto 2 is always more entertaining in my eyes, due to the amount of riders and more of a "pack."

GP was great for us Yami fans; but it seems like it all came down to tire management. Didn't realize it was such a big deal....you would think they could develop a tire that could go an entire race.
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They were talking about the characteristics of the Qatar track. They said it's a fairly slippery track as it is but when the sand gets blown onto it it becomes very abrasive and eats tires.
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1. What do you think of Moto3? Noise is a bit strange, eh? Haven't watch it yet.
2. Marquez's move on Luthi??? It's racing. Luthi's arm slap afterwards was a bit of a pansy move. If he was , knock the on the helmet hard. Otherwise, chill and spank him at the next race.
3. Is Rossi done? No.

A few years ago, Moto GP seemed to be getting a bit boring to me, and I liked the other races a bit more. , the Red Bull Rookie's Cup at Monterey a few years ago was MUCH more exciting to me. Moto 2 this go around for me was more enjoyable, I'm looking forward to watching the Moto 3 race.

The CRT stuff is still early on. I think it's ballsy of Edwards. I'm still pulling for him to make some strides in that arena with the understannding that a CRT bike whipping a full Yamaha, Ducati or Honda factory ride probably won't happen. I would think he's one of the best for the job if it has a chance.
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Rossi and Ben need to get their together. CRT teams are what I thought, slow. Call them a "development" team if you want but when a 1000cc machine is turning the same lap times as a 600cc control engine bike, something is amiss. Just saying. Moto2 qualifying times were 2:00 and some change. CRT teams were running 2:01 race times.
Colin Edwards was only .8 slower than the slowest non CRT bike in QP.

Also keep in mind that Qatar has a longest straight of ALL the circuits in 2012.

So long as CRT teams can keep down the costs on grenade engines, it might prove to be a viable alternative to the insane cost of leasing a factory prototype.

I'm betting the best is yet to come...
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1. What do you think of Moto3? Noise is a bit strange, eh? Haven't watch it yet.
2. Marquez's move on Luthi??? It's racing. Luthi's arm slap afterwards was a bit of a pansy move. If he was , knock the on the helmet hard. Otherwise, chill and spank him at the next race.
3. Is Rossi done? No.

A few years ago, Moto GP seemed to be getting a bit boring to me, and I liked the other races a bit more. , the Red Bull Rookie's Cup at Monterey a few years ago was MUCH more exciting to me. Moto 2 this go around for me was more enjoyable, I'm looking forward to watching the Moto 3 race.

The CRT stuff is still early on. I think it's ballsy of Edwards. I'm still pulling for him to make some strides in that arena with the understannding that a CRT bike whipping a full Yamaha, Ducati or Honda factory ride probably won't happen. I would think he's one of the best for the job if it has a chance.

In all honesty, I think the CRT idea should be the standard, much like Moto2. Lots of people on here will disagree with me but look how exciting having a control engine bike has made the Moto2 class. When the factory teams are running 10+ seconds ahead of most of the CRT bikes, it's just a Yamaha / Honda show. , Edwards was the only CRT rider to really get any camera time.
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-Tire management is going to be the name of the game this year.

- CRT isnt bad if you think about it like le mans racing where you have prototype racers racing alongside GT cars motogp = prototype CRT = GP... i basically just look who was the fastest in MOTOGP and who won the CRT

- Moto 2 > Motogp by alot but WSBK trumps them all in a big way and I will continue to be glued to wsbk

-Rossi is on the decline but I wouldnt count him out compleltly just yet hes still in the hunt and immensely talented but if you look at the history of great racers they inevitably drop to the back of the pack as injury/age take their toll
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1. What do you think of Moto3? Noise is a bit strange, eh?

2. Marquez's move on Luthi???

3. Is Rossi done?
1. didnt watch it

2. Agressive, and Luthi won't like it, no one would like it if they had it done to him. Not dirty, but questionable. Some of his other moves we borderline also. Swerving into someone??? Let's debate!

3. At the end of his career, Ducati is not as good as the Yami was
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It really all boils down to money. Honda and Yamaha have it as they have funding from more areas other than bike sales. That's probably the biggest factor in Ducati's issues. All they make are bikes and the economy is still slow which slows money for development. Ducati will get better as the season continues but it is going to be the 2 big factories for the most part.
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It really all boils down to money. Honda and Yamaha have it as they have funding from more areas other than bike sales. That's probably the biggest factor in Ducati's issues. All they make are bikes and the economy is still slow which slows money for development. Ducati will get better as the season continues but it is going to be the 2 big factories for the most part.
Meh. Ducati race team has more $$ than . It's called phillip Morris.
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Philip Morris only contributes so much money. Sponsor money only contributes to absorbing some of the cost of racing. I was reading that in 2009, it cost Kawasaki $40+ million to run a 2 bike team. Monster energy drink contributed $10 million which basically paid for both riders. Rossi and Hayden get almost that much each. Ducati will get more competitive as the season progresses but it's (almost) a new bike.
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Moto2 was amazing race. Motogp was ok, Stoner definetly hd the faster bike, but he wore his tires too soon. I can't wait for the next race.
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I didn't see the Moto2 or Moto3, but I enjoyed the MotoGP race.

I'm also a bit confused by the Rossi/Ducati thing. I always considered Ducati the big powerhouse in World Superbike (along with Aprilia) but something of an also-ran in MotoGP. Not sure why Rossi would head over there. It would be like riding BMW or KTM in WSBK.
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