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Old 04-09-2012, 12:13 AM   #21
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It may be racing, but that's racing IMO. I know and understand sometimes things happen, but he purposely tried running him off the track. When you intentionally serve at someone with the sole intent of running them off the track that is poor sportsmanship.
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It may be racing, but that's racing IMO. I know and understand sometimes things happen, but he purposely tried running him off the track. When you intentionally serve at someone with the sole intent of running them off the track that is poor sportsmanship.
I guess from what I saw, I didn't see an "intent of running them off the track".

I'll look again, but I believe he had an opportunity to back off in that turn after he was passed and then attempt a pass later.
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'I cannot ride this Ducati' declares Valentino Rossi after Qatar MotoGP struggle

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I cannot ride this Ducati' declares Valentino Rossi after Qatar MotoGP struggle

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"This Ducati has problems: I gave indications over where to intervene, but we didn't solve our problems. Unfortunately I'm no engineer and can't do anything about it. At least the positive aspect is that I don't crash with this chassis. That's something at least."
So is everyone with Rossi on blaming the bike?
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that just one of many reasons

1. new bike
2. his age
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4. killed his best friend
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It's strange. I used to go to the races and I had my favorites. I sort of still do. Edwards, Spies, or Hayden giving others an whooping would make me grin.

I've gotten to the point that I just flat out enjoy the skill level I'm watching. These guys are doing things on a bike we can't even imagine doing ourselves. It's a pleasure to watch. always

All that said. Don't give up on Rossi, he's not quite done yet.

The pass in Moto 2? Sorry, that's racing. Somebody needs to put their big girl panties on. I only say that for the wussy slap on the arm after the race. If it was a real problem, man up and give a solid hit, otherwise; STFU and kick his next race.
come on dude that's BS, you want him to do an Iannone and then suffer the consequences????

MM had the inside and not only came across Luthi but so much so Luthi only had the curb..... that, defend your line by all means but that little needs a slap, he has history in this dept too.
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I guess from what I saw, I didn't see an "intent of running them off the track".

I'll look again, but I believe he had an opportunity to back off in that turn after he was passed and then attempt a pass later.
watch it again, MM had his bike totally under control, he wasn't sliding and therefore put his bike where he wanted it to go......

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So is everyone with Rossi on blaming the bike?
No, Rossi's fastest lap was the slowest of all the prototype bikes, some blame must be appointed to him imo as much as it saddens me to say

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So is everyone with Rossi on blaming the bike?
its the bikes fault, lol

how come hayden didnt have as hard of a time as him....can rossi not ride around the problems aswell. not saying hayden didnt have issues or there werent problems with the duc's but come on

he said he had issues in the beginning with his tires but wasnt everyone talking about the new bstones warming up alot faster which is why tire wear became a factor
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MM had the inside and not only came across Luthi but so much so Luthi only had the curb..... that, defend your line by all means but that little needs a slap, he has history in this dept too.
Remember at the end of the longest straight in GP racing too.

If you watch the whole race, Marquez did that same move several times. Draft, cut over on the brakes on a few different guys. That particular instance, Luthi not wanting to give up the position tried to run it in deeper as MM was passing.. MM thought he was passed.

The smart move would have been for Luthi to quietly give up the position and make a draft move on the straight.
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If you watch the whole race, Marquez did that same move several times. Draft, cut over on the brakes on a few different guys. That particular instance, Luthi not wanting to give up the position tried to run it in deeper as MM was passing.. MM thought he was passed.

The smart move would have been for Luthi to quietly give up the position and make a draft move on the straight.
yeah he did it to iannone a couple times

I agree luthi just didnt want to give up and ran in to deep
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If you watch the whole race, Marquez did that same move several times. Draft, cut over on the brakes on a few different guys. That particular instance, Luthi not wanting to give up the position tried to run it in deeper as MM was passing.. MM thought he was passed.

The smart move would have been for Luthi to quietly give up the position and make a draft move on the straight.
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yeah he did it to iannone a couple times

I agree luthi just didnt want to give up and ran in to deep

if this guy pulled this on you into turn 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) ........................



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if this guy pulled this on you into turn 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) ........................



4.45 on

Look at the onboard.. Luthi could have fallen in behind MM, but he let's go of the brakes and rolls on through.

It wasn't turn 1, but I will post the vids of my races.. Got stood up in T4 and in the chicane.
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luthi fought with effort for the 1st position but fell short at the last lap when he should have been aggressive the most.. IMO
a racer shouldn't expect to make a clean race all the way through the finish line, even on the last lap, not like the rest behind him are gonna let him get away with the win
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Looks like clean pass
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Look at the onboard.. Luthi could have fallen in behind MM, but he let's go of the brakes and rolls on through.

It wasn't turn 1, but I will post the vids of my races.. Got stood up in T4 and in the chicane.
hows he going to do that when mm has full anchors on and he's on the curb

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luthi fought with effort for the 1st position but fell short at the last lap when he should have been aggressive the most.. IMO
a racer shouldn't expect to make a clean race all the way through the finish line, even on the last lap, not like the rest behind him are gonna let him get away with the win
you're right there, on the run down the front straight luthi should have drifted to the right (inside) and run that fugger into the armco all nice and clean

mm had the speed down the straight all race long, he proved it several times, he had the inside and was past, easily, did he really need to swerve over so far knowing luthi was right there and going into the last lap?????

Luthi is a former 125 world champion, he knows a thing or two bout swapping paint and he knows that was a BS move.

Aren't you glad the racing has started up again
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I guess from what I saw, I didn't see an "intent of running them off the track".

I'll look again, but I believe he had an opportunity to back off in that turn after he was passed and then attempt a pass later.
Finally reviewed it again. Agressive? Yes. Other than that, I have no problem with it.
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what is wrong with you guys. The King arrived in 2006 on a Satellite Honda.

Arturo, if your dog got scared because u were laughing is time to get a real dog dood, willie needs to go.

That is a BS move, remember what Nicky said, it is harder that what it looks sitting in the couch. Like Alex Hoffman said, Marquez is probably the most talented rider out there in Moto2, he didn't need to do that pass, he could have stayed in his line. Not sure if you guys have been following him since he was racing in spain, he has always been a dirty rider.

Rossi, well what can i say, i am probably one of the guys that don't like him or the YPB at all but i respect his skills, it saddens me seen him like that. Problem is he has no where to go. Unless Yamaha or Honda allow him to ride one of their machines he is going nowhere.
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what is wrong with you guys. The King arrived in 2006 on a Satellite Honda.

Arturo, if your dog got scared because u were laughing is time to get a real dog dood, willie needs to go.

That is a BS move, remember what Nicky said, it is harder that what it looks sitting in the couch. Like Alex Hoffman said, Marquez is probably the most talented rider out there in Moto2, he didn't need to do that pass, he could have stayed in his line. Not sure if you guys have been following him since he was racing in spain, he has always been a dirty rider.

Rossi, well what can i say, i am probably one of the guys that don't like him or the YPB at all but i respect his skills, it saddens me seen him like that. Problem is he has no where to go. Unless Yamaha or Honda allow him to ride one of their machines he is going nowhere.
did we just agree on something
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what is wrong with you guys. The King arrived in 2006 on a Satellite Honda.
Actually it was 2008 and he was riding for the Yamaha factory team
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