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Old 12-21-2006, 04:32 PM   #1
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Dyno time & custom map

I have the PCIII on the 6r now I need a good map to match. I using a "custom" map that was posted on kawiforums, with the accel pump feature enabled. But he's located at a much higher elevation. I'm thinking Metric Cycles in the Height? I've been looking at his site and he seems to be very knowledgeable on FI dyno tuning.

Is pricing on this usually by the number of runs or Hourly? I really wish that I had a baseline on my stock bike to compare from. Would like to develop two maps, one with pump gas and one with U4. Comments from anyone with dyno time or a custom map work done?
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Old 12-21-2006, 05:19 PM   #2
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Andy dynoed my SV.
Andy uses Eddy-Current Dynomometer which typically provides lower numbers than a Brake Dyno, but is arguably more accurate.
SV turned out with 63hp on rear.
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Andy dynoed my SV.
Andy uses Eddy-Current Dynomometer which typically provides lower numbers than a Brake Dyno, but is arguably more accurate.
SV turned out with 63hp on rear.
Were you given an air/fuel ratio chart along with your regular dyno chart? Thats what I'm actually interested in to see if my bike is running rich or lean at certian rpm ranges.

I read up on the the inertia vs edd-current and it looks like the eddy-currents give a 15% lower reading than dynojet
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Old 12-21-2006, 05:49 PM   #6
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What's been done to your bike?
How far from stock are you?

In my experience, unless you have some pretty significant mods done to your bike you typically won't see much if any gain from a "custom map"
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like him, Im not really intrested in making power.... Id just like to know how my fuel is doing and smoothing out the powerband...
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What's been done to your bike?
How far from stock are you?

In my experience, unless you have some pretty significant mods done to your bike you typically won't see much if any gain from a "custom map"
Thats part of the problem, hard to tell what works and what doesn't unless you have some way of substantiating it. The ol' dyno only gets you so far.

I have the basic bolt on mods. Leo Vince slip on and mid pipe, ZX-6r jumper mod, PCIII, and BMC filter. Not much else I can do unless I get into engine work, and it ain't that serious for me. The U4 map is just for grins. Some people say that running oxygenated fuel on a stock bike can increase power, some somes it won't do a thing. So I guess I'll find out and post the results. I really don't feel like taking all the off and bolting the stock stuff on to get a baseline run. So I guess I'll run as is.
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like him, Im not really intrested in making power.... Id just like to know how my fuel is doing and smoothing out the powerband...
buy a wideband, only 400. or so on ebay
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buy a wideband, only 400. or so on ebay
for less than 400 he can get a lot of dyno time, real power numbers, and a smoother powerband by someone who knows what they're doing.
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Thats part of the problem, hard to tell what works and what doesn't unless you have some way of substantiating it. The ol' dyno only gets you so far.

I have the basic bolt on mods. Leo Vince slip on and mid pipe, ZX-6r jumper mod, PCIII, and BMC filter. Not much else I can do unless I get into engine work, and it ain't that serious for me. The U4 map is just for grins. Some people say that running oxygenated fuel on a stock bike can increase power, some somes it won't do a thing. So I guess I'll find out and post the results. I really don't feel like taking all the off and bolting the stock stuff on to get a baseline run. So I guess I'll run as is.
i woulnt get a custom one done on your bike. you have the basic mods and i bet the map you have now is just as good as the one you may get after spending the $$$ on tuning. if you had a full system and maybe internals, i would do the tuning with the power comander.

if you got the money, well then go for it but add a akra or M4 full system and maybe some sprockets to feel the kick even more.
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Stock maps tend to be lean in the low & mid,rich on top.A custom map will help w/ smoothness & throttle response,more so than hp #'s-but they will be better.There was a recent sport rider article on a stock 06 r6 that picked quite abit of torque & hp in the midrange w/ just a good map.I'am taking the racebike over to andy sat for some mapping work
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Old 12-21-2006, 11:10 PM   #13
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if you got the money, well then go for it but add a akra or M4 full system and maybe some sprockets to feel the kick even more.
I've sat down an honestly looked at the stock headers vs a full system headers. The Leo Vince system that I have goes all the way to the header. I plan on removing the cat. converter anyway, next time I take the fairing off. I just cant see where spending the extra dough on a FS can out perform what I have now, especially when the cat is gone. Would a full system use larger diameter tubing?

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Patrick and Brandon did my map and it is waaaaaaaay noticable. I am very suprised at how much better the power delivery is in the mid range. so suprised that i almost flipped it backwards under hard acceleration, it came up on me and i just went with it not knowing the power del. was different.
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Can you do anything with a Duc Patrick?
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Yeah! He can sell it for you then you can go buy a SUZUKI GSXR-1000.
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