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Old 04-03-2012, 02:16 PM   #81
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You know that you should wear clothes under those leathers right? Think of it as a jacket.
No I know that, but the same issue with new shoes: socks are sweaty when they've been in your shoe before you try on new ones, and I would think that one would tend to get sweaty under leathers, and sweat through the clothes that they are wearing under them.
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you don't want a bunch of clothes under leathers.. they need to be tight enough they won't bunch up if you go down. Most people wear underarmor or similar.
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you don't want a bunch of clothes under leathers.. they need to be tight enough they won't bunch up if you go down. Most people wear underarmor or similar.
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Unless you are playing around with late apexing, you have to be going 120+ in the turns on RR to even be anywhere close to needing pucks.. and you DON'T wanna be touching down at those speeds....

I'll say again, odds are you are not anywhere near as close to your knee as you think, unless you are really hanging off sticking your leg out TRYING to get it down.
I play with late apexing, but that's because I want to win the RR race...
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Anyways.... I got a couple pics on my phone. If someone cares enough to see them I can text or email it you. Left side of the bike is trashed!


I was directly behind him when he went off roading. Coming on a left he passed me on the inside at the last second. Basically looked like he forgot to turn or locked his brakes, skidded onto gravel then cartwheeled in the grass. This is exactly why I was taking straights slow leading the pack Another perfect example of, "its better to be slow on the road then fast off."


If anybody knows the guy or has his number I'm interested in seeing what he wants for it "as is." Tossing around the idea of a drag bike after my two ongoing projects.
slow in straights, faster in turns is the way to do it.

Post up the pics, I'm sure we are all interested.
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Here is the pic of the guy who went down.

Did he have knee pucks???

4-1-12 Making the RR run

Could have prevented all that damage with some bedliner paint...Just sayin
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^^ that's after we pulled it out of the chain link fence


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I'm not trying to argue with you, just that I would rather have the gear and not need it--and the getting older bit was about that I don't feel like taking the stupid chances that I used to when I was younger, meaning I'd rather have the gear before I really try to push the limits. I don't go crazy on public roads, but as we all know, we push it harder than posted limits through RR, and the other few twisties we have around here--before I get to the level of knowing I need knee sliders, I'd just like to have them in the event that I end up touching. I'd love to get out to the track, and really see what I'm capable of, and I plan on doing so over the summer, or early fall, depending on work, and what not.
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Then that guy is going to have to go out to some podunk court and explain fraudelant tags.... That should be REAL fun. It will make the whole wrecked bike problem seem insignificant.
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In a way, it's my fault as well. As both Jason and I both rode RR before, without knowing much about the other riders, we had more confidence on the turns and worked the corners not too crazy but slightly agressive. Then, a dude with a couple of beers on him squeezed in between Jason and I, and the guy who fell who happened to be the friend tried to keep up with the three of us without realizing his skill limitation. Realizing the insecurity of couple of riders, onto the last lap, Jason and I made sure to control the pace, but the the guy with the zx14 kept pushing hard on the straights and making inconsistant turns, up to point where he passed Jason right before the turn, and couldn't manage the entry.
Actually, Jonbone rode his ride by keeping his pace at the end of the pack all the time. This is what the zx14 guy should have done. I think going forward, i am gonna stick to rides put together by more experienced and organized people such as Bevo, Rykoson, and Ivan among many.
Jon, not that you did wrong by putting this ride together. Just that I wanted to do RR again, and couldn't do it in the morning and your time worked out great for me. But didn't realize you had limited number of helps to assist in making this a safe ride. Next time, consult with some more experienced guys out there and make sure to have a leader, a sweeper and at least extra one or two more people to regulate the pace. This will make all of Us safer out there, hence end the weekend in happier note. Sunday was all great, and we did have a blast. But having one of the guys in the pack crash, although he is ok, left a bitter taste after such great day. And yes, you should definitely do a track day. I rode bikes over 20 years in and out, but never realized how bad i was until i had my first track day last year. I am planning to do at least one track day per month this year. And don't need to jump up the level. Will keep doing level one to keep practicing and trying to make everything from body position, entry, exit, defining line, and so forth to come out as naturally as possible. Good luck brother!
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In a way, it's my fault as well. As both Jason and I both rode RR before, without knowing much about the other riders, we had more confidence on the turns and worked the corners not too crazy but slightly agressive. Then, a dude with a couple of beers on him squeezed in between Jason and I, and the guy who fell who happened to be the friend tried to keep up with the three of us without realizing his skill limitation. Realizing the insecurity of couple of riders, onto the last lap, Jason and I made sure to control the pace, but the the guy with the zx14 kept pushing hard on the straights and making inconsistant turns, up to point where he passed Jason right before the turn, and couldn't manage the entry.
Actually, Jonbone rode his ride by keeping his pace at the end of the pack all the time. This is what the zx14 guy should have done. I think going forward, i am gonna stick to rides put together by more experienced and organized people such as Bevo, Rykoson, and Ivan among many.
Jon, not that you did wrong by putting this ride together. Just that I wanted to do RR again, and couldn't do it in the morning and your time worked out great for me. But didn't realize you had limited number of helps to assist in making this a safe ride. Next time, consult with some more experienced guys out there and make sure to have a leader, a sweeper and at least extra one or two more people to regulate the pace. This will make all of Us safer out there, hence end the weekend in happier note. Sunday was all great, and we did have a blast. But having one of the guys in the pack crash, although he is ok, left a bitter taste after such great day. And yes, you should definitely do a track day. I rode bikes over 20 years in and out, but never realized how bad i was until i had my first track day last year. I am planning to do at least one track day per month this year. And don't need to jump up the level. Will keep doing level one to keep practicing and trying to make everything from body position, entry, exit, defining line, and so forth to come out as naturally as possible. Good luck brother!
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In a way, it's my fault as well. As both Jason and I both rode RR before, without knowing much about the other riders, we had more confidence on the turns and worked the corners not too crazy but slightly agressive. Then, a dude with a couple of beers on him squeezed in between Jason and I, and the guy who fell who happened to be the friend tried to keep up with the three of us without realizing his skill limitation. Realizing the insecurity of couple of riders, onto the last lap, Jason and I made sure to control the pace, but the the guy with the zx14 kept pushing hard on the straights and making inconsistant turns, up to point where he passed Jason right before the turn, and couldn't manage the entry.
Actually, Jonbone rode his ride by keeping his pace at the end of the pack all the time. This is what the zx14 guy should have done. I think going forward, i am gonna stick to rides put together by more experienced and organized people such as Bevo, Rykoson, and Ivan among many.
Jon, not that you did wrong by putting this ride together. Just that I wanted to do RR again, and couldn't do it in the morning and your time worked out great for me. But didn't realize you had limited number of helps to assist in making this a safe ride. Next time, consult with some more experienced guys out there and make sure to have a leader, a sweeper and at least extra one or two more people to regulate the pace. This will make all of Us safer out there, hence end the weekend in happier note. Sunday was all great, and we did have a blast. But having one of the guys in the pack crash, although he is ok, left a bitter taste after such great day. And yes, you should definitely do a track day. I rode bikes over 20 years in and out, but never realized how bad i was until i had my first track day last year. I am planning to do at least one track day per month this year. And don't need to jump up the level. Will keep doing level one to keep practicing and trying to make everything from body position, entry, exit, defining line, and so forth to come out as naturally as possible. Good luck brother!
Def not your fault imo...

Maybe should have told the guy to slow down if you notice him riding over his head...

But he should have also realized this...it's too bad bikes like busas and zx14 come equipped with a lot of ego...

On a lighter note, what is up with the ton up meet?
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Zx14 rider didnt drink. His friend did.
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Def not your fault imo...

Maybe should have told the guy to slow down if you notice him riding over his head...

But he should have also realized this...it's too bad bikes like busas and zx14 come equipped with a lot of ego...

On a lighter note, what is up with the ton up meet?
Ton-up is on second Wednesday of each month. But i am going to California next week. There is another cafe meeting on Shepperd on thursdays. Gonna have to find out. If you ok, we can go out this Thursday night.
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I'm weird about wearing stuff other people have worn...I won't buy a new pair of shoes unless they appear to have not been tried on before, or if they were laced up before, and are missing the paper in the ends...

The fact that it's leather makes me want to have my own that much more, knowing how much I sweat in jeans makes me wonder how many other pairs of have ridden in and sweat upon those leathers before mine
That's why you wear Under Armour type shirts and cycling shorts under your leathers, plus sometimes you just have to be a man
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this thread keeps getting weird by the post...
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So then I says to Maybelle, I says " Lets get drunk, drag some knee, wear used leathers and make the RR run, and crash the zx14's, it'll be wicked awesome"
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