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Old 03-27-2012, 09:00 AM   #21
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:14 AM   #22
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And here I thought ithyphallophobia was the real problem.
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It says Jindy must be a lesbian then.
Intermediate gets more odd with each passing year.
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popo has a point, I too have noticed that most of the crashes i have seen, have been in intermediate.... wonder what the actual statistics are as far as crash rates are in the different levels...
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We (slower riders) don't need you out there bumping down....
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Running a 2:39 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) you should stay in 1. No need to move up! Stay and learn some more and drop it down little more befor you step up.
The breakover point for Ride Smart L3 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) is listed on the website as 2:12. I would think a smooth and consistent rider at 2:39 would benefit more from an intermediate group setting than a novice one.

What more would that rider learn in a novice group?
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Yes your right about the 2:12 to be able to ride level3 but that is a very generous time as well. They tell you that in the rider meeting. There is a lot of people running under 2 in level 2 as well. I think the op just needs to get a instructor to follow him and see if he is ready.

If you're consistantly under 2 minutes at TWS (Texas World Speedway), you should be in L3. The fact that there are people running that pace in intermediate is more indicative of how difficult it is to police a trackday than what the proper pace for a group should be.

Granted, the safe pace can shift a few seconds in either direction depending on who shows up that day and track conditions, but there are some fairly hard cutoffs.
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Yes your right about the 2:12 to be able to ride level3 but that is a very generous time as well. They tell you that in the rider meeting. There is a lot of people running under 2 in level 2 as well...
People running under 2:00 in L2? Seems odd to me.
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People running under 2:00 in L2? Seems odd to me.

I seem to remember floyd running 1:50s at MSRH in L2 so it doesn't surprise me.
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I seem to remember floyd running 1:50s at MSRH in L2 so it doesn't surprise me.
Yeah, you should probably get kicked out of an intermediate group if you're running those times.
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Whether it seems odd to you or not it still is fact. So how is a person running 2:39 gonna learn something from even people running that fast? Let's drop it back even someone running 2:15? That's still 24 seconds faster a lap.

Stay in 1 get more comfortable drop some time then move up or in most cases a instructor will tell you and you won't have to ask.
So now everyone in intermediate is as fast as the fastest guy in the group? I'm curious as to how many people in intermediate are even running a 2:15. Anecdotal evidence and personal experience in intermediate groups leads me to believe most of the riders are running slower.

From my experiences in intermediate it's a wide gambit of speeds and for the most part that spectrum allows even the slowest rider in the group to be exposed to someone slightly faster.
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Whether it seems odd to you or not it still is fact. So how is a person running 2:39 gonna learn something from even people running that fast? Let's drop it back even someone running 2:15? That's still 24 seconds faster a lap.

Stay in 1 get more comfortable drop some time then move up or in most cases a instructor will tell you and you won't have to ask.
Last season in CMRA Novice Superstock A the winner was running 1:52s on average. The 23rd place guy was running 2:10s. So even in a race, where everyone is "supposed to be" fast, you STILL have an approximately 20 second gap.
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