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Old 03-23-2012, 09:19 PM   #21
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:24 PM   #22
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Great points, but Obed was focused between which bike, not 250 or not. If you have any questions about the cbr, hit me up. I'm sure my last post had a lot of info between the two....
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:22 AM   #23
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If looking to race later, I get it. If for track days...check out an EX/Ninja 500. More than a 250 in the power department. Surprisingly easy to ride fast. Google it and see what you think. Lots of race history so lots of mods sorted out. I have loved wringing out 250's...but the 500 is a better option in my opinion. Riding a slow bike fast is fun, I just think the 500 is worth a look.

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Old 03-25-2012, 09:45 PM   #24
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There in lies the problem. If everyone had one and the track was small, they might be fun. Taking a minute to go down the front straight at TWS (Texas World Speedway), not fun. I mean it is slow even on a Hawk or SV, but at least still bearable.
I'm going to quibble with this. At the season finale Mini Endurance race at TWS (Texas World Speedway) last year, the front straight on a 250 provided me with the most fun I'd had all year on a motorcycle. I was in a three rider battle for what seemed like forever though it probably only lasted ten laps or so. None of us had a huge motor advantage, so it was always a big draft battle in the front straight, with the two riders behind the leader swinging out from the draft to make the pass going into turn one. We were pretty evenly matched on the rest of the course, so the order would only change on the next lap when the leader of the lap up to then was passed on the draft at the end of the long straight. It was pure GP125 style fun!
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Old 03-25-2012, 09:46 PM   #25
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drafting on the 250's was fun =)
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:06 PM   #26
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i have never seen this thread b4 well you can convert the 250 in to FI and SO MANY PARTS for it its insane
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Old 03-26-2012, 09:09 AM   #27
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I'm going to quibble with this. At the season finale Mini Endurance race at TWS (Texas World Speedway) last year, the front straight on a 250 provided me with the most fun I'd had all year on a motorcycle. I was in a three rider battle for what seemed like forever though it probably only lasted ten laps or so. None of us had a huge motor advantage, so it was always a big draft battle in the front straight, with the two riders behind the leader swinging out from the draft to make the pass going into turn one. We were pretty evenly matched on the rest of the course, so the order would only change on the next lap when the leader of the lap up to then was passed on the draft at the end of the long straight. It was pure GP125 style fun!
You just reinforced my point of “If everyone had one….” though. That is a very specific event you are talking about. How often does that actually ever happen? Once, maybe twice a year in the same class at TWS (Texas World Speedway) while racing. If that was all he was planning on doing with the bike I would say great choice, but being at a track day even in intermediate with 600’s and 1000’s will wipe that fun will turn into aggravation pretty quick.

I like being at a slight (keyword being slight) performance disadvantage while at a track day because it pushes me to make up time in other area’s that aren’t based engine hp. It helps me to push myself and improve as a rider. That is why I personally love the Hawk so much. It doesn’t have the engine performance of a 600 or even a SV650 for that matter, but the handling is great. For me a 250 is just too much of a disadvantage with riding with other larger bikes.
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:15 PM   #28
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You just reinforced my point of “If everyone had one….” though. That is a very specific event you are talking about. How often does that actually ever happen? Once, maybe twice a year in the same class at TWS (Texas World Speedway) while racing. If that was all he was planning on doing with the bike I would say great choice, but being at a track day even in intermediate with 600’s and 1000’s will wipe that fun will turn into aggravation pretty quick.

I like being at a slight (keyword being slight) performance disadvantage while at a track day because it pushes me to make up time in other area’s that aren’t based engine hp. It helps me to push myself and improve as a rider. That is why I personally love the Hawk so much. It doesn’t have the engine performance of a 600 or even a SV650 for that matter, but the handling is great. For me a 250 is just too much of a disadvantage with riding with other larger bikes.
I continue to quibble. You also said "if the track is short" and there is nothing short about the front straight at TWS (Texas World Speedway). It's length allows the drafting to come into play, and that is something very few track day riders will ever get to experience except at a super long track.

Point taken though, if everyone else is on a 600, the fun level goes way down. That said, in the Friday "street" group for CMRA practice, we had a real nice group of at least seven 250s and even on the long course it was a blast. And yes, even on 250s we were hanging with, and sometimes even passing more powerful bikes in the turns. That said, it was not as much fun as the all too brief lunch session where we opened up the cut-off and diced it up true mini style.
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