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Old 03-21-2012, 12:27 PM   #1
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What if there was?

Let's say there was a place in Houston that offered the use of a lift, hand tools, power tools and special tools that also had an attending experienced technician to guide you through all of the steps in both servicing and diagnotics/ repairs of your powersports toys. Now let's say that the cost of using the lift, all the tools and guidance from the certified tech was about $35 per hour instead of the more common $75 to $95 at the local independents and dealerships.
Would this type of place interest the local powersports community?
I would venture to say that it would and that it would do so while teaching riders how to perform the most basic services to the most difficult of repairs, this alone in my opinion would allow the community to learn what is needed to keep your MC or ATV running and operating for years to come while teaching the owners to properly care for and understand your toys.
This is just a thought, what do you guys think?
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:31 PM   #2
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Great concept but here is the drawback that I see...

Many people are not going to have all of the tools, power tools, and lifts available to them at home so they would still be dependent on the shop that offers this service. Factor in cost of quality tools, power tools, pneumatic tools, and compressor and the investment could over run the cost to simply take it to a mechanic and pay them to work on it. Thus invalidating the savings..

Maybe I am wrong but tools are expensive...
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:36 PM   #3
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This sounds like a great idea!
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:39 PM   #4
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Depends on what would need to be done.

35 dollars to show me how to do an oil change?
There are sponsors that already have free classes on basic maintenance.
Many members are already willing to help out noobs for a six pack or such.

More complicated stuff, adjusting valves, replacing cam chains, clutches?
Maybe something there, but what about liability? Are the techs going to know how to work on every bike? What if they tell them an "easier" way to do something, and then it breaks? Who's going to cover further costs? What if the noob CAN'T get something done or does it wrong? Does the tech go ahead and do the work for them?

Lots of questions to answer, but I don't know how well it would do.
The DIY people have a vast amount of information on tap in this technology age through Youtube, forums, etc. We don't like paying in the first place, otherwise we'd pay someone to do the whole job.

I don't know though, I'm a DIYer so maybe some less mechanically inclined people can chime in.
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Great idea, I like it!
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:43 PM   #6
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there is a place in the north US that i read about, 4 or 5 guys bought a shop, brought in tools and a lift and they all shared the cost, let people use it for a fee, and mostly they do their project work in it

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Old 03-21-2012, 12:43 PM   #7
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40 years ago I would have done something like this, now I had rather just pay and have it done and go ride
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If you take twice as long to do it with supervision you could have just paid them to do it? If you really wanted to lean how to do it, you can read a book or google it. Thats what I do.
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If you take twice as long to do it with supervision you could have just paid them to do it? If you really wanted to lean how to do it, you can read a book or google it. Thats what I do.
True forgot about time value as well, but I guess that's part of the master plan.
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I guess I am older than I look based on Obed's comment. My dad is a diesel mechanic... so I grew up pulling wrenches on various things. I mean my first vehicle was all kinds of problems and 90% of them ended in me fixing it myself with Dad's supervision on items I wasn't 100% on. I have found value in that over the years and it has helped me be less dependent on a shop for car issues... but honestly, the one thing it taught me more than anything is this...


I don't have to go to a shop, but if I have the option... I'll choose take it to the shop every time. No more skinned knuckles, no more cursing the heat and sweat, no more bug bites or ant beds in the grass.

That being said... for basic maintenance I would rather do that myself since it is relatively simple, not time consuming and gives one piece of mind.
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Sounds like the auto hobby shop on any military base.
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for some people, reading about it or watching a video doesnt teach much. i hardly retain anything reading a service manual. pics help, but i'm still not going to get the job done most of the time. if i have someone there to get hands on with the job and show me how to do it i have a much greater chance of getting into it and finishing the next time with success. an open shop with a knowledgeable person staffing it would be a really great thing to have. if this could be in far north houston that would be great, or conroe, or maybe within walking distance of my house. that would be even better. lol
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I agree that most tasks take at least twice as long to show someone how to do it as it would take to actually do the work. With this being said there wouldn't be any real "savings" BUT they would learn how to work on their own equipment.... Very interesting concept!

Maybe a flat rate pricing scheme instead of hourly rate would be the way to go.... and if the person is really so dumb they can't turn a wrench with you walking them through it then help them out so they don't eat into your profits?
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yes. exactly. we need more of those.
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Will there be beer? Because that's how I work on my bikes.
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I believe they used to have these kind of places in the 50's and 60's for cars. Great idea.
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It's a novel idea, but liability insurance will cause you to go under. the last thing you want is some uneducated fucktard getting hurt then trying to sue you.

No matter how many stipulations and waivers you make people sign before they work on their some will find a blood sucking personal injury attorney that will be chomping at the bit to sue your into oblivion at the first sign of so much as a splinter.
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It's a novel idea, but liability insurance will cause you to go under. the last thing you want is some uneducated fucktard getting hurt then trying to sue you.
No matter how many stipulations and waivers you make people sign before they work on their some will find a blood sucking personal injury attorney that will be chomping at the bit to sue your into oblivion at the first sign of so much as a splinter.
that was my first thought when I read the OP....
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