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Old 03-21-2012, 07:19 AM   #21
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dont think scottoiler makes packages for street bikes.
I was curious about the other guys statement saying scottoiler doesn't make one for street bikes so I went to their site. Turns out, the make them for ALL types of bikes. More than likely they are "universal" units. To be sure, I entered my bike (R1) and it came up with an oiler. I read a lot of Euro bike magazines and they highly recommend them. I think (for them) it's due to the high amounts of salt used on European roads that would require daily cleaning where as the oiler system helps out. These things are not meant as a replacement of regular cleanings but are designed to keep fresh lube on your chain at all times. According to the website, they don't sling excess oil once set up properly and use vacuum to retain the oil.
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Constant lubrication = less wear = more miles of our chain and sprockets.

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and use vacuum to retain the oil.
Actually they have two versions. An electronically operated oiler and a vacuum operated oiler. The latter works off of the engine vacuum
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Actually they have two versions. An electronically operated oiler and a vacuum operated oiler. The latter works off of the engine vacuum
Im looking at two types of valves, one that I could fine tune (twist). Or one that is a 12v pneumatic powered valve. I just push the button a couple times and drip drip. Not sure which one would be the best
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Im looking at two types of valves, one that I could fine tune (twist). Or one that is a 12v pneumatic powered valve. I just push the button a couple times and drip drip. Not sure which one would be the best
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interesting. I always thought they were off road only. I say go for it.

my next bike will be shaft drive. a little less maintenance.
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Essentially Scottoilers use a pre-set drip method, and the electric model is turned on when the built in accelerometer senses the engine turning on.

Would you like to see an automatic version too
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:19 AM   #28
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i dont oil my chain without cleaning it first.... just mo...and its the same chain that came on the bike from the factory 15k miles ago
I've got 20k, but mines at the end of life IMO... rust color around the links. Mostly cause i didn't oil it after a couple REALLY bad storms... it's gotten ridden in a lot of rain.

I've used 1.75 cans of PJ1, and feel that I've neglected it at times.
I'd say a full two, maybe 3 cans of PJ1 per 20k miles is good enough for me. That's a whole $20-$30.

I really do think this is for wet, dusty/dirty (aka, offroad), or long haul tourers. For City riding and a commuter bike, I'll stick with spraying chain on occasion, wiping the tail section the next night, and having an oiled chain and clean tail the rest of the 2 weeks.

But it IS interesting.

BTW, I'll still be more happy when on a buell with a belt.


With such a slow drip, especially not on all the time.... how do you ensure it gets all the links? Just hope?
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Actually they have two versions. An electronically operated oiler and a vacuum operated oiler. The latter works off of the engine vacuum
The one they showed for mine was the vacuum. Forgot about the electric one.


Again, they aren't designed to eliminate regular cleanings, just to keep the chain lubes in between cleanings.
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Essentially Scottoilers use a pre-set drip method, and the electric model is turned on when the built in accelerometer senses the engine turning on.

Would you like to see an automatic version too
It is automatic. It automatically operates without the rider's input
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Did you enjoy the idea behind the oiler, and the fact that once setup correctly its not going to drip constantly. Also you have the ability to shut it on or off.
I liked that I didn't have to worry about stopping to oil the chain and thought that it would be nice to have one on my own bike for touring. In fact I have a long trip coming up this year (2600 miles round trip plus any riding while there) and I may look into adding one of these. Anyway, all I had to do was visually check the tube occasionally for bubbles in the line, indicating that it was about out of oil. The reservoir was under the seat and very small. I did not catch a brand name on the system. I also never noticed any excessive oil fling on the bike. I have a lot of pics from the trip so I'll take a look and see if I have any that show the chain.
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You cant carry a can of are-sol on you but over 1000 mile trips, but you want to install this contraption? You do know chains last 20k+ miles with the riding your talking about.

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interesting. I always thought they were off road only. I say go for it.

my next bike will be shaft drive. a little less maintenance.
Yeah you still have to change the final drive oil every 5-10k depending. Shaft's also suck when they break...ask me how I know.
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You cant carry a can of are-sol on you but over 1000 mile trips, but you want to install this contraption? You do know chains last 20k+ miles with the riding your talking about.

Gimmick..
Please tell me more oh wise one. I haven't had a chain last that long.
And why carry a can of spray and manually lube the chain on a long trip when this "gimmick" will do it for me?
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Please tell me more oh wise one. I haven't had a chain last that long.
And why carry a can of spray and manually lube the chain on a long trip when this "gimmick" will do it for me?
Because you still have the "Clean" the chain. Think about it, your spraying oil on something while its moving. So you get all kinds of debris being caked on at the same time. So how does a bunch of sandy rubbing against your sprocket with oil make it any better? Thats maybe why your chain hasnt lasted that long. On a sport bike I can get 15-20k easily. Sport tourer I get 20-30kish.

Thats the biggest fundamental flaw, thats why they invented a shaft drive.
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Lets keep pouring oil on this!!!

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Because you still have the "Clean" the chain. Think about it, your spraying oil on something while its moving. So you get all kinds of debris being caked on at the same time. So how does a bunch of sandy rubbing against your sprocket with oil make it any better? Thats maybe why your chain hasnt lasted that long. On a sport bike I can get 15-20k easily. Sport tourer I get 20-30kish.

Thats the biggest fundamental flaw, thats why they invented a shaft drive.
I clean my chain and still don't get 20K out of it. And the bike I rode with the oiler didn't have stuff caked all over it.
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Your riding in some dusty stuff? You doing some dual purpose roads on your street bike? Or is this a dual purpose bike
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