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Old 03-20-2012, 10:27 PM   #1
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Automatic Chain Oiler

So my buddys looking at an sv650, and it has this mod called an auto chain oiler. Never heard of it until today, Im going to set one up like this.

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Old 03-20-2012, 10:32 PM   #2
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looks like a terrible idea, I can imagine that under travel a large majority of that oil is lost to the wind.
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aren't those mainly used in the off road world?
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LOL to cheap to buy the scottoiler
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But why....O'ring chains really don't need that much attention..
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That's just going to make more of a mess to clean up and could get all over your tire and cause an accident.
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LOL to cheap to buy the scottoiler
dont think scottoiler makes packages for street bikes.
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My rental in Scotland had an automatic oiler on it. It didn't hold a lot of oil and I only added to it once after maybe 1000 miles.
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Just spray some bell ray on it every other wash or so. It is more like a wax base versus oil.
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Likely more trouble than it is worth.
I recall a guy in his mid to late 50s mentioning he put one on his Busa and it reduced chain adjustment frequency.
and I recall one of my dad 70s sereis Harleys leaking oil by the coutershaft sprocket producing similar effect.

I am not good a posting pictures but if you google images for Bultaco Matador back in the 70s many of these enduro bikes came with the chain incased in oil.
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I just don't trust any type of system that automatically distributes lubricant, unsupervised, so close to my rear tire, and having rubber hoses so close to my sprocket.
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That's a joke right? Has chain maintenance become so monotonous for people that they have to go all Rube Goldberg on it? It's a chain, not a flux capacitor. I think I'll stick to taking the two minutes to spray down my chain rather than turning the whole rear end of my bike into a game of Mouse Trap.
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I think you guys are failing to see how useful this could be, and you guys seem to get the wrong ideas about it. Yes there is some fluid dripping near the rear tire.

But:

1: You install control valve that limits the drip, also allowing you to shut this device off.

2: A long 1000 mile trips or longer, do you keep a can of aerosol lube with you?

3: If installed correctly, it won't have any of the issues that you guys mention.

4: You can make a chain oiler system look nice and professional by using a little Brembo fluid reservoir, some miniature valves and other little parts.

Im not trying to skim on maintenance or make things easier, but I really think this is neat and wanted to share it. This is something that I would not ride with constantly either. I'd turn it on every time I fill up for gas for a few miles and thats it.

Jeez...
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Hey guys, the AEROSOL Can spray is not as good as gear oil. + Gear oil is a third of the cost of most spray on lubes

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The o-rings on the chain are designed to keep dirt, water (and chain lube) out of the real working joints of the links. The o-rings seal in the assembly grease for the life of the chain.

It's very simple to do what Kawasaki instructs in the Owners Manual. Put the bike up on the center stand every 1000 miles or so and coat each joint of the chain with ordinary 90 or 85w/140 gear oil, using a small paint brush. You can buy the oil by the quart at auto parts stores. This heavy oil penetrates into the rollers but does not fly off (much). It normally won't get on the tire. This method is very cheap.
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looks like a terrible idea, I can imagine that under travel a large majority of that oil is lost to the wind.
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aren't those mainly used in the off road world?
If I design mine for street use and make it correctly wouldn't you think it'd be fine?

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LOL to cheap to buy the scottoiler
Not too cheap, rather make it myself for about $50 in parts at most. Its custom too which I enjoy. I custom fabricate a lot of stuff for vehicles too.

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But why....O'ring chains really don't need that much attention..
really? you should visually inspect your chain prior to every ride, and lube no less then 1000 miles every time.

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That's just going to make more of a mess to clean up and could get all over your tire and cause an accident.
You seem to fail to realize its not a constant drop, read IndyRC's reply he after 1000 miles had to refill his oiler. 1000 miles is a lot of slow drips

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dont think scottoiler makes packages for street bikes.
They don't, but Harley back in the day had chain oilers stock!

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My rental in Scotland had an automatic oiler on it. It didn't hold a lot of oil and I only added to it once after maybe 1000 miles.
Did you enjoy the idea behind the oiler, and the fact that once setup correctly its not going to drip constantly. Also you have the ability to shut it on or off.

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Just spray some bell ray on it every other wash or so. It is more like a wax base versus oil.
I completely will agree with this response, however I'd like to add that GEAR oil is much cheaper then aerosol sprays like PJ1 and Bell Ray. Just something to think about.

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I just don't trust any type of system that automatically distributes lubricant, unsupervised, so close to my rear tire, and having rubber hoses so close to my sprocket.
Its not 100% unsupervised, you have two control valves. One to shut off the entire system and the other to fine tune the drip rate. I would only use my chain oiler maybe every 200 miles or every fuel fill up. Shoot even ever other fill up, as long as I do not have to carry a can of spray on lube.

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That's a joke right? Has chain maintenance become so monotonous for people that they have to go all Rube Goldberg on it? It's a chain, not a flux capacitor. I think I'll stick to taking the two minutes to spray down my chain rather than turning the whole rear end of my bike into a game of Mouse Trap.
Im not trying to skim on maintenance or make things easier, but I really think this is neat and wanted to share it. This is something that I would not ride with constantly either. I'd turn it on every time I fill up for gas for a few miles and thats it.

Im not trying to be a troll either, just was irritated with all the replies people wrote.
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:03 AM   #15
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Yeah, gear oil is great but everything sticks to it and gums up the chain. I do understand that the o-rings prevent crud from getting in but it doesn't help when you got sandpaper wearing down the o-rings (worse case scenario).

So with this auto oiler, you're basically saying it cuts down the lube interval from say 400 miles to 1000 miles?

I'm all for trying new things out but I honestly think it's just going to make more of a mess to clean.

I have a lil bottle of lube I carry in my passenger seat if chain looks bad on long rides btw.
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i dont oil my chain without cleaning it first.... just mo...and its the same chain that came on the bike from the factory 15k miles ago
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Welcome to the home of the revolutionary PRO-OILER automatic chain oiler system.

The motorcycle chain lubrication system that can get more than 100.000 kilometers out of ONE single chain !
  • Electronically controlled precision electromagnetic pump, insensitive to temperature and oil viscosity
  • Adjustable while on the move for wet or dusty conditions
  • Amazingly efficient and economical
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Well im going to turn this into my project thread to troll on the haters even more.

Just ordered my parts.

Ill be using this for a reservoir;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Big-Size-Bra...item3f12a6e418
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The motorcycle chain lubrication system that can get more than 100.000 kilometers out of ONE single chain !
Regardless of lubrication...would you not want to change your chain/sprockets before 62K miles?
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