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Old 03-15-2012, 11:51 AM   #21
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why would he, most youngins don't listen about 600ss bikes, is the chopper opinion any diff. ?
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Don't you ride a harley?
Yes I do - and honestly, he could do worse than a full dress HD as his first bike. They're deceptively easy to ride and capable of far more than many sport bike riders give them credit for.

A chopper is NOT a factory HD - and other than Thunder Mountain, none of them have HD parts on them.

A chopper is not a first bike. Not by any means.
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LOL, I have on first hand knowledge with that type of bike so I was hoping for some feedback from someone that knows!
As do I - hence the reason for my post.
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if he wants a "chopper" look on a bike that will handle slightly better than a tank... just pick up a softail springer...and if he wants to go a little more radical...
buy a 1200 sportster, put forward controls on it and have someone put a springer front end on it... (I don't think harley is putting springers on sportsters at the moment, but I could be wrong)
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why would he, most youngins don't listen about 600ss bikes, is the chopper opinion any diff. ?
touche, but i still have my hopes.
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LOL, I was just insinuating that harleys are overpowered, under braked, poor handling, overpriced piece of garage jewelry. I actually kinda like street glides and whatever is in his avatar isn't bad looking.
Choppers are severely overpowered for their frame and braking capacity. Its a relative thing. All the rest applies too.

As far as a factory HD, they're quite adequately powered for what they are.

They're never going to win a flat out speed race, but they've got all the torque they'll ever need. Brakes, especially on the tourers, are quite good.

An HD touring bike is one of the best handling bikes you'll ever find for the street. Not track or at track speeds, but at street speeds they're extremely competent.

I ride a Road Glide, not a Street Glide. Biggest differences are the frame mounted fairing and more clearance/lean angle.
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as long as it passes their criteria, i'm pretty they have to allow him to use it, they may not recommend it, but thats his choice

criteria being basically street legal (pass inspection), safe, and have ins.
Key word was "either". But you are right, in that situation I think they would be more than happy to take his money and then fail him when he had to make a 3 point turn in an empty parking lot (exaggerating)

Glad he isn't going to try it anyway.
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How many who have commented on this thread have actually ridden a "chopper"?
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How many who have commented on this thread have actually ridden a "chopper"?
Ape hangers, jockey shift, and NO front brake at all! But it could pull your truck out of a ditch if need be.
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I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night
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more than one it seems.... I rode choppers when you could not buy one on a show room floor, you had to make it...or buy it from a friend who did, or steal it...
those were the days...and I am glad they are gone....
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I've ridden them and they aren't that bad. I used to commute on a 40 year old vintage bike with drum brakes and shot suspension. You get used to whatever you got. Going to be expensive to drop but if you got the cash for it you can probably afford to drop it a couple times.
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Since when do MSF courses require the student to have his own bike? Don't all schools provide the bikes, mainly 250s. That's what they had when I took the course. Since the students are unlicensed, it would be illegal to ride to the school.
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Since when do MSF courses require the student to have his own bike? Don't all schools provide the bikes, mainly 250s. That's what they had when I took the course. Since the students are unlicensed, it would be illegal to ride to the school.
They all do provide them but if you wanted to ride your own couldn't you just say that someone drove it there like we all did before the MSF was required but we had to take a driving test at the DPS?
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Since when do MSF courses require the student to have his own bike? Don't all schools provide the bikes, mainly 250s. That's what they had when I took the course. Since the students are unlicensed, it would be illegal to ride to the school.
The basic course you should not ride your own bike - I don't think you do anywhere either.

The ARC, OTOH, requires your own bike.
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Ive ridden a chopper. Couldnt wait to turn around after 5 miles.
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Don't you mean you needed 5sq miles to turn around?
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What I lack in riding ability, I make up for in stupidity.

I had a rigid fram VS800 that was bobbed out with a bit of a rake. It rode like , handled like , and was loud as . Fun as , but not at all sensible.
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The guy that lives next door to me has a sister and brother in law that both have custom choppers.

They trailer them to rally every year.

If you get her drunk, she will fully admit she can't ride it for ****, has never gotten it past second gear, and is more or less scared to death of the thing.

Yes, they both dress up as pirates and go every year........

hope that helps, oh x2 what honors said...
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as long as it passes their criteria, i'm pretty they have to allow him to use it, they may not recommend it, but thats his choice

criteria being basically street legal (pass inspection), safe, and have ins.
its not highly publicized.
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