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Old 03-15-2012, 03:27 PM   #61
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ok so you upgrade, can you buy your old one back from the insurance company and make a trackday bike out of it? they make fine little track bikes...
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Stick with the two fiddy...I love them little things, forgiving, cheap and easy to fix! If they would have had the new body style when i bought my bike, i might have gone with the 250. then after a 10k or so miles, gotten a 600...but the 250's were ugly as sin when i got my bike lol. I still might end up with a 250 cause they are fun to throw around!
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on track days I am not trying to be faster than anybody... and the only one I am trying to be better than is me....I pick something to work on and work on that....it may be a particular corner... on a bad day it may be relocating the basic line...trackdays for me are all about me, not about being faster....faster will come with getting what I want done, done...
I don't understand why this isn't with the mentality these new track people go out with...

It's not a race...you're gonna be slow, who cares... It's about learning something. Speed will come... So much I always hear guys talking about bumping up in level that really probably have no business bumping up.
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:29 PM   #64
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Statistically you are crashing 4x per year and every 1700 miles at the rate you are going. I wouldn't go bigger just yet.


dats da facts!

i think it more, he's crashed 2x in 3 mos, 12 mos in a yr........
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I don't wanna argue anymore guys. All this advice will be soaked up and analyzed. Let's just stick to 675 vs. 636 from this point on, okay? Anyone can PM me if you're honestly that concerned.

Right now I'm leaning toward the 636, just because I can find one for a bit cheaper than a Triumph, probably. Also, I think they look amazing, and the consensus seems to be that it's more comfortable.
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Am I not capable of approaching the same situation with corrections? I understand what y'all are saying. But I don't think it will hurt to upgrade. I don't plan on riding any faster right now... But someday, I will. And here, I have an opportunity to to upgrade with a very small financial loss, if any. Why pass up that opportunity?
basically you can't control yourself or a 250, what makes you think a 600ss going to be any better.
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Am I not capable of approaching the same situation with corrections? I understand what y'all are saying. But I don't think it will hurt to upgrade. I don't plan on riding any faster right now... But someday, I will. And here, I have an opportunity to to upgrade with a very small financial loss, if any. Why pass up that opportunity?
So you can live to have more opportunities...
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I don't wanna argue anymore guys. All this advice will be soaked up and analyzed. Let's just stick to 675 vs. 636 from this point on, okay? Anyone can PM me if you're honestly that concerned.

Right now I'm leaning toward the 636, just because I can find one for a bit cheaper than a Triumph, probably. Also, I think they look amazing, and the consensus seems to be that it's more comfortable.
In that case, would you be interested in a 06 636...

I know this guy Ivan, that would sell his.
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True, but you caused wrecks... you could go backwards. If smart shark forgets all this advice, you should get his 250 and learn more.
Honest mistake on my FIRST time on a track ever. Yes I "caused" someone to go down. In my defense, it was level 1 so you have to assume that following too close can cause an issue. Also he ran off and did not lay down the bike until he tried to re-enter the track, struck a dip in the ground and fell over.

So yes I could go backwards and potentially learn alot from the 250 and I was less responsible and bought an 650 V-twin as my first bike, double the horsepower. The next time through the launch after I missed the line I started concentrating on hitting that line more consistently. I was concentrating on the bus stop before that as that had been my most problematic corner up until that point. Insulting me for a mistake that any new rider could and potentially has made when in a panic situation that could have led to me getting hurt I made a choice to save myself and my machine by scrubbing my speed and correcting my line seems a bit off base. It is the responsibility of the person behind you to choose their line, following distance and actions as they see fit in the situation as well.
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ok so you upgrade, can you buy your old one back from the insurance company and make a trackday bike out of it? they make fine little track bikes...
That's what I've been thinking. I'm gonna look into it.
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over $4,000/yr for insurance for a SS bike???

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Don't listen to the haters. I started on a "New off the showroom floor" 2010 ZX6R with no riding experience. Granted I had some amazing friends to help me out. I do agree with everyone else about getting the 250 as a track bike however. They are wicked fun, and I can't wait to turn my girls into my track bike (if I could ever get her to upgrade!)

If you can get a smokin deal on a 90+ zx6r, you won't regret it. I have thrashed pretty hard on mine, and it still runs like a beast. I still have alot of room to grow into it as well, so I don't regret the purchase at all. Been down twice (once at the track once on the street) and the bike and myself are no worse for wear. I knew exactly what I did in each situation and what I could do to not do it again.

You as a rider needs to re-evaluate when/why/how you went down. I don't believe engine size should dictate that.
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$4k+/yr for ONE bike!! Boy, this is one time I'm glad I'm not young and reckless... or should I say, wreck-a-lot.

Try a Street Triple R. Insurance will be a lot less, and it'll be a better street bike than either the 636 or Daytona, especially if you are coming from a 250. With a set of clip-ons, it'll handle just like a Daytona. Throw a set of race fairings on there, and it'll look like one too.

ZX6R is a good option. You can get a brand new '11 for $7999.

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In that case, would you be interested in a 06 636...

I know this guy Ivan, that would sell his.
I'd love to buy your bike, if the price was right, and there was nothing wrong with it.
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I don't wanna argue anymore guys. All this advice will be soaked up and analyzed. Let's just stick to 675 vs. 636 from this point on, okay? Anyone can PM me if you're honestly that concerned.

Right now I'm leaning toward the 636, just because I can find one for a bit cheaper than a Triumph, probably. Also, I think they look amazing, and the consensus seems to be that it's more comfortable.
I guess.... just thought I'd lay it out. And no, IDON't Believe you have the skills to do what an instructor cand do. Not saying all instructors are badass, but you don't tell Jordan how to dunk or chuck norris how to kick . So, if you want a bigger and more expensive bike to wreck, I personally wouldn't feel bad laying down a kawi but would be more mad at myself for wrecking a triumph. Sit on both bikes and try to figure out which is the one you can bail out the best!
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WORD. And, truth be told, I made almost the same mistake, twice. Embarrassingly.
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how many chances do you get before you get hurt or die? track or street.

every crash counts toward "the big one".
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WORD. And, truth be told, I made almost the same mistake, twice. Embarrassingly.
Guess you missed the "reevaluation" session. You saying that doesn't raise my confidence in you about upgrading.
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Guess you missed the "reevaluation" session. You saying that doesn't raise my confidence in you about upgrading.
Well, it's a good thing I ride my own ride, and not yours.

Seriously y'all, this thread is for straight motorcycle talk. If you want to talk about someone else's riding, start your own thread or pm that person.
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