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Old 03-11-2012, 05:44 PM   #1
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The brighest bulb that doesn't burn the headlamps?

Hey guys,
The guy I bought my CBR from had some ridiculously bright blue HID's on it which made so much heat they burned the inside of the headlamps (they're not completely clear).

What's the brightest bulb I can use that doesn't produce so much heat?
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I know that the color of HID's are measured in units of "Kelvin" and IIRC Kelvin is actually a unit of heat. I think the range runs roughly as follows:

3500 = yellowish
4500 = white
5-6K = blue-ish
6000+ = ricer blue

Bikes will vary, but I'd stick with under 5k. The bluer end may have more cosmetic appeal, but yellow light actually has more penetrating power - esp in fog etc. I'd look at no hotter than "diamond white" (~4800). Have you looked into LED's?
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Um.... about 90% sure if they are real HID's and not blue hallogens they are not what caused any damage.... Real HID's put off less heat then the hallogens that the bike comes stock with and is designed for... Double check, if they have a ballest then they are not a problem, well not for the headlight housing anyways, for the the electrical system that depends on how it is wired and what the system can handle.
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Fwiw I had a set of real HID's melt the fogliight housing on my Camaro. I think I still have the pics at the shop.
It seems some GM trucks have an issue too.

http://www.gmfullsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=230614
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Fwiw I had a set of real HID's melt the fogliight housing on my Camaro. I think I still have the pics at the shop.
It seems some GM trucks have an issue too.

http://www.gmfullsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=230614
what was your color temp?
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Fwiw I had a set of real HID's melt the fogliight housing on my Camaro. I think I still have the pics at the shop.
It seems some GM trucks have an issue too.

http://www.gmfullsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=230614
Sounds like an install error in my view. Not the HID bulb itself. Any bulb gets hot enough that when it comes loose would start to melt the housing.
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It did the same to GMC Sierra, i ran 4800. housing
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I'd like to put some brighter lights on my bike as well I just have the stock lighting
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Sounds like an install error in my view. Not the HID bulb itself. Any bulb gets hot enough that when it comes loose would start to melt the housing.
I can't speak for the OP, but mine wasn't an installation error.
I have a friend with a GT500 and his housing burnt too. You don't want to know how much those things cost.

My point is, HID's do not always burn cooler. Don't believe me, touch a bulb while it's on and see if there's any skin left on your finger.
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I think your problem is going to be 55w vs 35w. That's what effects the actual HEAT of the light. Are your current HIDs 55w?

The light output is rated in K, but it's the temp of the light color. 4-5000K are usually the best. I use 5000K.

55w HID melted my housings. 35w HID's did not. Though the 55w are considerably brighter than the 35w, the won't melt stuff. 35w HID are still about twice as bright as far as lumes go compared to regular halogen lights.

Colour Temp (K) Colour Description:
3000k Yellow light (suitable for fog lights)
4300k White light with tinges of yellow.
5000K: PURE WHITE LIGHT.
6000K: White light with tinges of blue
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I can run 35w HIDs in my regular GMC 1500 headlights.

35w HIDs WILL melt the housings of my fog lights on my Sierra.

I have 55w HIDs in my CTS and 35w HIDs in my fogs on the CTS with no problems for the last 3 years.

I messed that last one all up. LOL

Light does not mean heat.

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or maybe it wasn't the current HIDs that burnt the housing. It could have been overwattage Halogen bulbs the PO tried before replacing with HIDs to prevent further damage. How hot does your headlight lense get when the lights have been on awhile?

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or maybe it wasn't the current HIDs that burnt the housing. It could have been overwattage Halogen bulbs the PO tried before replacing with HIDs to prevent further damage. How hot does your headlight lense get when the lights have been on awhile?

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Probably this.

If there's not a ballast connected within 4-6" of the lights (think of something about the size of a pack of playing cards if it's the new digital kind, double if it's the analogue) then you're not running HID. A dead give away is if it looks like a regular light bulb.

Halogen on top HID on bottom.
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I have seen another case where the headlights on a CBR also started to fog. housings
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