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Old 04-19-2012, 01:45 PM   #141
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There are rules to lane splitting.
Riding in the shoulder is forbidden and is reserved for emergency vehicles only.

And is actually far more illegal, especially since there is legislation to allow this in Texas.
correction, "there are laws against lane splitting."
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:49 PM   #142
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i don't think you are getting it, so here it is. Ironically this is part of the course you needed to pay attention to -- to get your license. (not sure how you got your license.. maybe its something you are working towards?)

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/msb/msbfaqs.htm #19

The law doesn't specifically say one way or the other, but there are several statutes that may come to bear depending upon the circumstances, i.e. right of way, obligation to drive in a single lane, signal intention, passing with safety, etc. Motorcycles are considered equally as cars regarding traffic laws, so the single lane, signal intention and other statutes in the Transportation Code could come in to play.

The main statute that makes "lane splitting" illegal is Transportation Code Section 545.060, entitled "Driving on Roadway Laned for Traffic."

An operator on a roadway divided into two or more clearly marked lanes for traffic:
shall drive as nearly practical entirely within a single lane; and
may not move from the lane unless that movement can be made safely.

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Old 04-19-2012, 02:00 PM   #143
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Let's frame this discussion differently, if it were Legal to lane share, would you do it?

I would most definitely more so, then the few times i do now based on my own judgement & risks & with the law I choose to take. As I stated above, I am too chicken to lane share as fast as the OP in moving traffic, but i have when traffic is stopped and there is abnormal gridlock.

Every driver/rider has broken traffic laws from miniscule to large, from illegal lane changes to talking on the phone in a school zone to speeding. Our assessments of risk is justified in our minds when we do. While the law as stated above starts out saying "The law doesn't specifically say one way or the other" but yes, there are several statutes for many possible offenses that fall on the discretion of the officer & court on whether your action violated that statute. It would be nice to remove those issues however.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:03 PM   #144
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might'a been me i live right in that area, were you the guy in the white LWB chevy whom I invited to come have a "chat" with me? Then bailed out of the exit @ the last minute last friday?
nah, i was on the blue ninja 250r, i am very noticeable as i have HiViz and a Nexx Helmet. I was passed by a rider of which the bike looked similar that lane split as we approached Eldridge. More power to them, i was too chicken to follow at those speeds. They zipped right through.
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How many days ago
a week or two ago maybe
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:16 PM   #148
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:49 AM   #149
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Let's frame this discussion differently, if it were Legal to lane share, would you do it?

I would most definitely more so, then the few times i do now based on my own judgement & risks & with the law I choose to take. As I stated above, I am too chicken to lane share as fast as the OP in moving traffic, but i have when traffic is stopped and there is abnormal gridlock.

Every driver/rider has broken traffic laws from miniscule to large, from illegal lane changes to talking on the phone in a school zone to speeding. Our assessments of risk is justified in our minds when we do. While the law as stated above starts out saying "The law doesn't specifically say one way or the other" but yes, there are several statutes for many possible offenses that fall on the discretion of the officer & court on whether your action violated that statute. It would be nice to remove those issues however.
The law also does not state, "no killing babies", yet its summarized from a few different laws. your point? Would you want to clear up that one too?

and i think this whole argument was not during the event it happened, but the bragging about it after the fact (video with a yee-haw type post on motohouston).
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law also states not to speed.

raise your hand if you don't speed.
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law also states not to speed.

raise your hand if you don't speed.
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There is 'speeding' which is maintaining a speed appropiate with surrounding traffic in regards to be 'safe'... then there is doing 15, 20+ existing traffic...
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long story short, we should conclude that because the DPS decided this issue was important enough to place in their list of frequent questions that...

1) they do not want new motorcyclists confused -- thus its stated "do not do"
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The law doesn't specifically say one way or the other, but there are several statutes that may come to bear depending upon the circumstances, i.e. right of way, obligation to drive in a single lane, signal intention, passing with safety, etc. Motorcycles are considered equally as cars regarding traffic laws, so the single lane, signal intention and other statutes in the Transportation Code could come in to play.

The main statute that makes "lane splitting" illegal is Transportation Code Section 545.060, entitled "Driving on Roadway Laned for Traffic."


An operator on a roadway divided into two or more clearly marked lanes for traffic:
shall drive as nearly practical entirely within a single lane; and
may not move from the lane unless that movement can be made safely.
www.dps.texas.gov/msb/msbfaqs.htm
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There is 'speeding' which is maintaining a speed appropiate with surrounding traffic in regards to be 'safe'... then there is doing 15, 20+ existing traffic...


in the eyes of the law, above posted limit is speeding.

i view lane splitting similar to speeding, both get you to point b quicker (thats not riding in the emergancy lane)

if it becomes legal, i'd be a lane splittin fiend in bumper to bumper traffic, and stop lights too.
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I ride the shoulder around traffic before lane splitting. I'm a nail-defying rebel and I still don't care if it's more illegal.
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Lanesplitting is maintaining a single lane IMO.
your $.02 is wrong and illegal

quit trying to make yourself seem right.

only if/when it becomes legal will it be legal.

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in the eyes of the law, above posted limit is speeding.
So is obstructing traffic...
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Hey bro, I could care less about "seeming right" last time I checked this was a forum.

If you don't like ppl with a different opinion than your own, then don't read it.

Just because something us illegal doesn't mean it is wrong.

Segregation anyone?

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