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Old 03-08-2012, 04:20 PM   #21
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then you're going to overload the ft traction , and loose the ft

learn to use both BRAKES, esp in the wet. your brake bias should change from heavy ft to more rear, more like 50/50
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Thanks a lot guys! and I'm a dude btw lmao! Yeah I was told in MSF to hold on to the rear so that's what I did. Yeahh noob mistake, I've been riding for about a month now.

It was wet and stupid me, I was in the middle lane and not expecting anything to happen that day.

Yeah I'll definitely clean the gauge before putting the new one in.
assuming you mean the middle of the lane you were in, this was your downfall. esp since its only been light raining. it just brings the oil to the top.
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I prefer the left. The middle is oil and the right is ac condensate and oil
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I prefer the left. The middle is oil and the right is ac condensate and oil
also roads are usually sloped down on the right, so thats where the oily water accum.
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then you're going to overload the ft traction , and loose the ft

learn to use both BRAKES, esp in the wet. your brake bias should change from heavy ft to more rear, more like 50/50
Yeah I eased in both of my brakes, I'm not sure how exactly I locked the rear up because I didn't really feel it lock up, unless it was because of the rain I didn't feel it.

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also roads are usually sloped down on the right, so thats where the oily water accum.
I should take that into account next time. OH YEAH! I needed new tires because it seems like the previous owner did burnouts
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those 250's have little tires as it is. I bet they lock up easily
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Yeah I eased in both of my brakes, I'm not sure how exactly I locked the rear up because I didn't really feel it lock up, unless it was because of the rain I didn't feel it.



I should take that into account next time. OH YEAH! I needed new tires because it seems like the previous owner did burnouts
Rain, oil and misc...I like to refer to as road snot. Slick as heck if your not careful & ready for it.
You lived, and your realtively unscathed...knock it up as learning experience and keep riding. :-)
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Thanks a lot guys! and I'm a dude btw lmao! Yeah I was told in MSF to hold on to the rear so that's what I did. Yeahh noob mistake, I've been riding for about a month now.

It was wet and stupid me, I was in the middle lane and not expecting anything to happen that day.

Yeah I'll definitely clean the gauge before putting the new one in.
Be paranoid 120% of the time. It's when you do your guawrd down that something happens.... after two weeks of riding, I stopped using rear brakes. Not sure if they work at the moment. When you learn to drive a car without abs, it helps. Not sure with msf has all taught you, but I would practtice more front brake use even in wet. Keep you foot off that rear pedal and start braking super early with just fronts, and then a little later. You'll end up getting it sooner or later
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Be paranoid 120% of the time. It's when you do your guawrd down that something happens.... after two weeks of riding, I stopped using rear brakes. Not sure if they work at the moment. When you learn to drive a car without abs, it helps. Not sure with msf has all taught you, but I would practtice more front brake use even in wet. Keep you foot off that rear pedal and start braking super early with just fronts, and then a little later. You'll end up getting it sooner or later
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Yeah I eased in both of my brakes, I'm not sure how exactly I locked the rear up because I didn't really feel it lock up, unless it was because of the rain I didn't feel it.



I should take that into account next time. OH YEAH! I needed new tires because it seems like the previous owner did burnouts
i did that when i first started rideing on an NX 125 on the street. it had just sprinkled a little, i was doing about 40 mph, saw a dog come close to the road so i BARELY got on the rear brakes to slow in case he ran out in the road. he stepped onto the side of the road and i turned slightly to go around him while still slowing and the bike instantly swung around on me and ended up on the side. some of that oil when it is barely wet is like KY jelly on a shaved... um... yeah... it's slick
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now suck it and get the bike to patrick over at Motorcycles Unlimited and get it checked out...up and running right...
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Yeah I eased in both of my brakes, I'm not sure how exactly I locked the rear up because I didn't really feel it lock up, unless it was because of the rain I didn't feel it.



I should take that into account next time. OH YEAH! I needed new tires because it seems like the previous owner did burnouts
do you remember from MSF when they said an accident is not 1 thing, it's multiple.

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yep, cause that rear brake is just superflous...
right, the idiots that say DON'T rear brake only haven't a clue, if you can stop fast w/ ft brakes, you can stop faster w/ ft and rear in any condition. PERIOD.
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Front stops a lot better than rear PERIOD!

You explaining to a guy that just started riding to tap his rear and this and that is gonna go down again. Guarantee if he hadn't touched the rear and used the front he wouldn't have made this thread!

If you have to stop immediately in a life or death situation then yes use the front and barely get on the rear but from what he explained using the front he would have been just fine!
Remember that other thread and about respect and elders? Know what the problem is with both brakes and scrubs? It's not using using borth brakes, it's not enough practice...
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Front stops a lot better than rear PERIOD!

You explaining to a guy that just started riding to tap his rear and this and that is gonna go down again. Guarantee if he hadn't touched the rear and used the front he wouldn't have made this thread!

If you have to stop immediately in a life or death situation then yes use the front and barely get on the rear but from what he explained using the front he would have been just fine!
who said rear only?

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