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Old 03-08-2012, 12:44 PM   #1
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harsher punishment for drivers who hurt bikers

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Drivers should have harsher punishments for thier reckless driving that result in motorcycle collisions because the damage is way more sever than with a normal car. This way, drivers are more willing to be consious of riders on the road and double check for them to avoid a heftier fine. Unfortunately this will never happen because we are the minority, and we have to accept the risk involved everytime we choose to throw our legs over the iron steed. The worst way to get injured is through someone else's negligence. I really hope they were able to save this guy's leg, and that he wil be 100% over time.
so what do ya'll think

i think thats BS, we chose to ride bikes, knowing full well they are more dangerous

a F250 4x4 is tiny compared to a 18 wheeler, or a smart car compared to a F250 4x4

does crashing into a smaller bike(or veh.) deserve more punishment for the bigger veh.?
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The vehicle responsible should be severly keyed.
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I don't think heavier punishments will serve any purpose in deterring these types of accidents. They are, after all, accidents.
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accidents happen, if negligence is an issue, it is an issue no matter who or what they hit...if we make that a crime, then the crime is the same no matter who or what they hit...no difference...we have enough disparity with the whole hate crime issue, we do not need another one like that...
you could catagorize penalty based on results, either in property value or life/limb... but not based on who/what
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From what I have seen cops tend to always wanna blame the biker, esp. if he/she is on a sportbike. IMO that attitude needs to change because I think it clouds their judgement in laying fault with the apropriate party which affects insurance claims/rates, health ins. costs, out of pocket medical expenses, etc..

If they did started actively prosecuting careless cagers who run down bikers mebe less people would be injured/killed.
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From what I have seen cops tend to always wanna blame the biker, esp. if he/she is on a sportbike..
from first hand experience I agree. thought it was as clear as could be when i wrecked, still got a ticket for riding on a shoulder (later dismissed).

I'm thankful for having witnesses
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From what I have seen cops tend to always wanna blame the biker, esp. if he/she is on a sportbike. IMO that attitude needs to change because I think it clouds their judgement in laying fault with the apropriate party which affects insurance claims/rates, health ins. costs, out of pocket medical expenses, etc..

If they did started actively prosecuting careless cagers who run down bikers mebe less people would be injured/killed.
i agree w/ the cops, cuz riders are usually acting stupidly.
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Old 03-08-2012, 01:29 PM   #11
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i agree w/ the cops, cuz riders are usually acting stupidly.
Until someone you know is out riding normally and gets killed by a in a cage who ran a red light cuz they were so busy texting.
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Until someone you know is out riding normally and gets killed by a in a cage who ran a red light cuz they were so busy texting.
you think i haven't lost friends to idiots? you're wrong.

still doesn't mean bikers esp. sportbikers don't act stupidly. cuz they do ALOT.
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What if they weren't wearing a lid?
I say no respect, cager gets benefit of the doubt in any scenario...
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Until someone you know is out riding normally and gets killed by a in a cage who ran a red light cuz they were so busy texting.
as opposed to the dipshit rider who blasts into a vehicle doing 2-3 the legal limit or swings out of their lane into an oncoming vehicle, or plow into a mini-van with their headlight aimed at the clouds?
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Until someone you know is out riding normally and gets killed by a in a cage who ran a red light cuz they were so busy texting.
would that be any different than a friend out driving a car normally that got killed in the same scenario?
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does hitting a byciclist or a pedestrian carry more penalty than hitting another cage?
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There already are harsher punishments, both civil and occasionally criminal, for hitting bikers, they are just due to the reality of motorcycle accidents though. On the civil side those medical bills rack up fast, and on the criminal side it is more likely to be some variety of manslaughter.
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agree with OP i think, i dont think that because you hit a bike as oppsed to a car you should be penalized harsher.

we choose to ride, there are pros and cons, we all know the risks.
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To me makes the same since as the CAUTION BABY ON BOARD SIGNS. Its a good thing you hung that, cuz I was just about to nail the gas and slam into you. But now I have to find some one else!
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Wouldn't make a difference. They're not looking for bikes, so they don't see bikes. Saw an interesting show about how our brains filter out what we don't expect to see in a particular situation. Just makes for one high stakes dodge ball game.
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