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Old 02-20-2012, 10:54 AM   #21
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I've been beat on it before.. It's all about the setup. Mine runs its best from 80mph and up... Under that it's hard to ride, not to mention it has a bit of a delayed hit. A big motor/nitrous bike will easily pull on me from the hit, I won't usually catch/pass them till 4th.. Turbo bikes really shine after 140mph...THAT is when they come on hard..
I get a few seconds of joy when roll on racing Alan. I jump out of him for about 2 seconds. He quickly makes up for that 2 seconds. Gonna have to try it one day on the dope.
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:43 AM   #22
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I get a few seconds of joy when roll on racing Alan. I jump out of him for about 2 seconds. He quickly makes up for that 2 seconds. Gonna have to try it one day on the dope.
Yeah one problem with turbo bikes is we normally have to run tall gearing to make the bike controllable when on boost, usually taller then stock gearing. The downside to this is off boost, the tall gearing makes the bike a , especially with low compression engine setups...This also makes the bikes hard to launch at the track. I use to always run 18/40 or 41...even when drag racing (hence my ETs). The bike ran great on the highway but definitely had a delayed hit...(much like when Glyn Mathews jumped out 4-5 bikes on me from a 60 mph roll)..

Now I have switched to 19/47 gearing and it is 10x better off boost, but now the problem is I have too much boost for the for the gearing and the power comes in way too soon, it's not really rideable below 3rd gear. 3rd is now like 2nd use to be. Its fun but not effective. I may turn the boost down when I start playing with it again so it is more controllable in 2nd/3rd.

I'll let you take it for a spin if you want and see how it feels compared to yours on spray while I have my 19/47 and 15lb spring...otherwise known as "the death spring" as I call it.. You'll need to sign a waiver though..
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Jesus Knight Rider!!! Did you transform KITT into a busa?!?! that thing has more gadgets than a swiss army knife!!!
There is a lot in there that you can't see.
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Old 02-20-2012, 05:28 PM   #27
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Soooo.. No tips on camera mounting or setups for better stability?

I know I need to run the clear windscreen next time.

Any thoughts?

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Soooo.. No tips on camera mounting or setups for better stability?

I know I need to run the clear windscreen next time.

Any thoughts?

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Allen seriously that video was just about as good as I've seen with the exception of the pointing and screen issues. I'm pretty sure if you just don't mount it on an extension horizontally the vibration is going to be pretty minimal. As far as I know the only way to really get it better is to use a camera with vibration cancellation.
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A 3m sticky mount might have less movement than the suction cup.... not sure how flat your tank is at that spot.

If there is a spot on the frame/head to brace it (zip-ties or something) to keep it from bouncing, that might help.

Honestly though, mount it with the "arms" straight up and down. Or camera directly to the mount... look for shake and compare your vid with that. It's the best you can hope for.
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A 3m sticky mount might have less movement than the suction cup.... not sure how flat your tank is at that spot.

If there is a spot on the frame/head to brace it (zip-ties or something) to keep it from bouncing, that might help.Honestly though, mount it with the "arms" straight up and down. Or camera directly to the mount... look for shake and compare your vid with that. It's the best you can hope for.

Now THAT is an idea..... I never even thought about tying some tethers on to it to help snug it up a bit and take some of the bounce out of the mount....That just might help...

My tank is pretty flat up top, I can take one of the extensions out of the suction cup mount BUT it wont be able to see the tach/speedo very well.... The height that i had it at was pretty much perfect. I think some tie wraps might help dampen it a bit.... I may try that this weekend.

I can use the sticky type mounts but they dont have any height to them. I need the camera to sit up atleast 8" above the tank.....Ofcourse the problem is it gets in my way and I can't tuck.... I really cant go WOT without tucking...it makes it wheelie more and really pulls hard me....Especially at 160+
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I know what ya mean about the height to get the image you want and also not being able to tuck. That's my main complaint too.

Maybe try a mount on your helmet? By your chin might be perfect.
Helmet mounts are always less shakey since there's no vibration.
I haven't tried it yet though.... kinda don't want a mount stuck on the helmet
Maybe I'll use an old one just for that.
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I've been beat on it before.. It's all about the setup. Mine runs its best from 80mph and up... Under that it's hard to ride, not to mention it has a bit of a delayed hit. A big motor/nitrous bike will easily pull on me from the hit, I won't usually catch/pass them till 4th.. Turbo bikes really shine after 140mph...THAT is when they come on hard..
Is it possible to do any sort of brake boosting like in a big turbo car?
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Is it possible to do any sort of brake boosting like in a big turbo car?
For a track run, from what I've been told, no. Contact patch to power ratio won't allow it. Basically clutch dump and go, and you still have to ease into it running nothing less than a wide slick. But I could be wrong.


But on your vid, for us Busa speedo noobs, looks like due north is around 110ish and east is around 160ish. Is that right?
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Is it possible to do any sort of brake boosting like in a big turbo car?
I havent really messed with that brake boosting stuff much.... It "can/does" build a little boost on the brakes but it also gives you a pogo stick effect when you hammer it while building a lb or two of boost while the forks are compressed then released.

The turbo lag is not as bad as you would think when you have a heavy spring in the gate, its about a 2 sec delay at most...less then that when in the lower gears.

The real problem is keeping the from blowing the tire off at 70 mph or shooting to the stars....
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