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Old 12-10-2006, 01:02 PM   #21
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a scorpion exo 700 saved my head. when i fell off the bike at 70mph. no cracks or compress foam. just scrapes on the outer shell.

Pray do tell.
How does someone *fall off* a motorcycle at 70 mph
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How does someone *fall off* a motorcycle at 70 mph


i fell off at 70 when a dumbass decided to pass and i was in his way..
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I plan on upgrading my helmet soon. But I do use a Bell. Its only DOT certified. Not Snell
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Bell as a whole, makes good helmets.... but you have to understand, that the ones at wally world arent the best in quality....
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Old 12-10-2006, 03:41 PM   #26
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Bell as a whole, makes good helmets.... but you have to understand, that the ones at wally world arent the best in quality....

I plan on an Shoei soon.
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Bell as a whole, makes good helmets.... but you have to understand, that the ones at wally world arent the best in quality....
yep I know but when times are tight a BELL helmet is better than no helmet, but in a couple weeks I will have me a suomy:icon_bigg
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Years back Bell made some good quality bike helmets. Several changes of ownership later, they make "passable" hlemets. Better than nothing I guess but not as good as a top line helmet.

As far as "wind noise" I'd like to address that issue.

Typically, the better the ventilation a helmet has, the more wind noise it will have.
More air flowing through the vents = more wind noise.

My solution; I wear ear plugs. They block out wind noise and I can actually hear BETTER as a result of that then if I didn't have them in at all.

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My brother got pulled last night on Hwy 6 for obscured license plate. The rookie cop was cool, but the vet that was riding with him gave my brother a hard time every which way. He then called him out on his Icon helmet (which I also think is ) and said that it has to have a DOT sticker on it. I know that in the past you had to have the sticker. Do you still need it?

Anyway my bro asked the officer if he should strap the helmet to the back of the bike and ride without it, since he has the required health insurance and is old enough. Do you need to have any other documentation to ride w/o helmet, or just Ins. card? Kind of a meaningless question as we always wear helmets, but was just curious.

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...lmet+exemption

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Pray do tell.
How does someone *fall off* a motorcycle at 70 mph
went in hot.

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a $77 helmet at walmart that is DOT and/or SNELL is a decent helmet. It will save your life just as well as any SHOEI or ARAI anyday, and in some tests, are proven to actually fair better in impact tests. What the higher dollar helmets provide is more comfort and aerodynamics. There are extensive wind tunnel testing done on the higher end models to reduce drag and to capture and flow as much air through the helmet as possible. That is where the higher dollar falls into place.

As far as dropping a helmet and it cracking, that is exactly what it is designed to do. And you should get a new helmet afterwards, $77 or $549.

me, i wear a KBC and Shoei (of course not at the same time) for the comfort weight, stability, peripheral, ventilation, the overall engineering and design, and most importantly because of the fit; but i'd trust my head in a DOT bell anyday.

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As far as dropping a helmet and it cracking, that is exactly what it is designed to do. And you should get a new helmet afterwards, $77 or $549.
So you're trying to tell me a helmet is supposed to CRACK from a 2 1/2 foot fall? Bullshit. If it cracks that asy I'd love to see how it would hold up in even a 60mph crash after your head hits the ground. thing would disenegrate.
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So you're trying to tell me a helmet is supposed to CRACK from a 2 1/2 foot fall? Bullshit. If it cracks that asy I'd love to see how it would hold up in even a 60mph crash after your head hits the ground. thing would disenegrate.
I don't know about 'Supposed to crack from the fall' statement.

(Not intending to overstate the obvious, But..)
The info that came with my Shoei helm does speak of the one impact rule. They also continue to state, by example, that if any doubts, as if you drop the helmet or it is hit by something, to contact a Shoei dealer before using again.

It explains how just one impact will effect the internal padding, even if there is no obvious external evidence.

No mention of cracking to indicate the helmet it done for, but it gives me the impression that the helmet will be impared if even dropped from the bike.
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Just as important as the outer shell is the integrity of the EPS inner liner.
If it has been compressed / damaged in anyway, it loses some of it's ability to absorb impact and passes more of it to the rider.

Sweat / normal deterioration of the liner over time will also impact a helmets ability to protect it's wearer, which is why most mfrs. recommend a replacement at least every 5 years.
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a $77 helmet at walmart that is DOT and/or SNELL is a decent helmet. It will save your life just as well as any SHOEI or ARAI anyday, and in some tests, are proven to actually fair better in impact tests. What the higher dollar helmets provide is more comfort and aerodynamics. There are extensive wind tunnel testing done on the higher end models to reduce drag and to capture and flow as much air through the helmet as possible. That is where the higher dollar falls into place.

As far as dropping a helmet and it cracking, that is exactly what it is designed to do. And you should get a new helmet afterwards, $77 or $549.

; but i'd trust my head in a DOT bell anyday.
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as for the mags.......they can tout all they want, what do the mag riders wear.........arai & shoei.

btw, from the review of the shoei x-11 on that site

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/shoei/x-eleven/

"No question that the X-Eleven is relatively expensive. But as the saying goes, if you have a cheap brain, buy a cheap helmet! If you can only own one really nice, really high-quality helmet in his or her lifetime, this is the one!"

and about the Z1R highly touted by motorcyclist magazine,

http://www.webbikeworld.com/z1r-helmets/z1r-zrp-1.htm

"The bottom line? All things considered, including the price/value equation, I feel better wearing my Arai Quantum II and will continue to do so for the near future."

and about the cheapest SNELL lid

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/disco...rcycle-helmet/

"Save up a few more bucks and remember the old adage, herewith adapted: If you have a 65-dollar head, get a 65-dollar helmet."

"What's the sense of trying to save a few bucks on probably the most important safety item you can own?"
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haha, the x11 is my choice because it fits me so well, is comfortable, stable at high speeds, visor system, great venting, and lightweight, but i wouldn't get onto a discussion of it having better/worse protection than a bell.

it also depends on how you fell and what you hit during the fall, so comparing crashes from a 12 to losing it skiing isn't really apples to apples.

ok, so the helmet shouldn't crack in half on impact, that is not what i meant, but you will notice the spider web cracking...that is designed to do that. the helmet will remain intact, while dissipating and distributing the energy from the impact to the rest of the shell and inner material.

anyhow, wear your agency/goverment approved helmet, whether you spend half a days work, or two hours of work to afford it...
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