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Old 02-13-2012, 02:31 PM   #21
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If you hydroplane doing normal speed while paying attention and slide into someone that is an accident. If your stunting down the highway and lose it and plow a car that is negligence. Talking on the cell phone in traffic should be put into the second category and hurting someone due to negligence is a crime not an accident. I don't believe in jailing people for non-violent crimes but I do think that you should be held accountable for your actions and it should be standardized across the board not left up to an officer to decide.
thats your opinion, the general public see's it diff.

and i bet it would be wreckless vs negligence.

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Old 02-13-2012, 02:40 PM   #22
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What about changing the radio station or drinking a coke?
You should keep your eyes on the road in traffic so if changing the radio or drinking a coke causes you to look away from the road then you shouldn't do it. I know where my cup holder is without looking and if I need a drink i do so. I also know where the presets are on my stereo I can change the station with a glance. Comparing a quick glance at the radio to texting is oranges to apples. We have all seen it we have all done it, but it doesn't make it any safer. I was in bumper to bumper traffic in my service truck during the summer of 06 on I35W in dallas, I took a quick look at a map and I bumped the car in front of me. It cracked the guys bumper we exchanged info and no harm no foul... had the guy been on a bike rather than in a crown vic. the outcome could have been much much worse. From that day forward I don't do anything that distracts me from the road. As riders we have a unique perspective on this stuff. A fender bender to a cage could mean life in a chair or eternity in a box for us.
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Old 02-13-2012, 02:43 PM   #23
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thats your opinion, the general public see's it diff.

and i bet it would be wreckless vs negligence.

best o luck to your friend.
Your right wreckless endangerment is a much better description of highway stunts and cell phone use. Anything that you do that impedes your ability to control your vehicle.



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hope he has a speedy recovery!
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:09 PM   #25
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Sorry to hear about that. I wish him a full recovery. Can he at least sue the driver?
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let us hope that ticketed and let go means they have insurance to take care of your friends medical expenses and living expenses until he can return to work....
it was an accident and they meant no harm, but they should be responsble for it...
Let's hope it's this! Sorry for your friend, he's got a long,tough road ahead of him!!
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What a sad way to start the week :( wish him a speedy recovery!
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Update, he may be paralyzed from the waist down. .
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:03 PM   #29
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If you hydroplane doing normal speed while paying attention and slide into someone that is an accident
...dunno, seems that in this case you weren't paying enough attention for the road conditions.

Sucks, hopefully the person can/will make a full recovery. If the cell phone was factor, should be relatively easy for police to make a determination and is likely to play a part in any court action.
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Yeah I'm speaking out of emotion right now... This is my second friend in a year to get paralyzed on a motorcycle. I love riding I will till the day I can't, then I will miss it. I hope that is still how these guys feel. I would hate to live in a chair with regrets.
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My prayers goes out to the man that is injured, please keep us updated on his conditions!
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Sorry to hear about that. I wish him a full recovery. Can he at least sue the driver?
You can always file a civil lawsuit for anything.

The driver that ran into the rider is liable. What the driver's insurance doesn't cover, the driver is liable for. If an agreement can't be reached as to the amount of damages, then yes, you take them to court and hope they have the ability to pay. They don't jail folks for losing a civil suit.
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...dunno, seems that in this case you weren't paying enough attention for the road conditions.

Sucks, hopefully the person can/will make a full recovery. If the cell phone was factor, should be relatively easy for police to make a determination and is likely to play a part in any court action.
If you rear end someone it's your fault whether you're on a cell or not.
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Prayers for him AND his spine. I pray he walks and rides again.
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You can always file a civil lawsuit for anything.

The driver that ran into the rider is liable. What the driver's insurance doesn't cover, the driver is liable for. If an agreement can't be reached as to the amount of damages, then yes, you take them to court and hope they have the ability to pay. They don't jail folks for losing a civil suit.
This is my understanding, too.

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It is a big healing prayer kind of evening....may your friend heal up and the doctors find guidance.

And Rick Perry vetoed a bill to stop cell phone use during driving? Maybe we need to get a petition going?
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:50 PM   #39
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Matt is a friend of mine's brother-in-law. He is not doing well. She said he wasn't responding to her or her sister (his wife). please keep him in your prayers.
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:54 PM   #40
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