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Old 02-09-2012, 11:36 AM   #1
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Gas in Oil?!

I noticed this morning the oil level glass had a white patch on it indicating water is in the oil. After removing the oil cap i smelt it and it smells like gas in the oil...anyone have a clue on what can cause this and how to fix it????

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Could be the rings
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I have the same problem on my ninja 250..
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I think a slight gasoline smell is normal/not a big deal.

The "white" oil is a bigger issue imo....

I'm not a pro...
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I think the white is caused by water and not gas. I had gas in the oil of 1 of my DR650s. It was not white at all but smelled of gas bad and had the viscosity of water.
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I think a slight gasoline smell is normal/not a big deal.

The "white" oil is a bigger issue imo....

I'm not a pro...
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I think the white is caused by water and not gas. I had gas in the oil of 1 of my DR650s. It was not white at all but smelled of gas bad and had the viscosity of water.
and yep.

1. Check your oil level. Is it where it should be? Make sure you check it with the bike standing up level and not on the kickstand. I say this because I've seen a few people overfill it... You may just want to do an oil change and see if it continues to be the same. Just hope no one wanted to screw you over and poor water in your .
2. Check your coolant level. Is it where it should be? Top off your coolant level. Don't forget the overflow too. Mark it so you know where you filled it up to. Low levels may indicate it's leaking past your rings if it's not leaking out anywhere else.
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thanks for everyones input!

Wouldnt it burn the oil if the rings were going out?
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I think a slight gasoline smell is normal/not a big deal.

The "white" oil is a bigger issue imo....

I'm not a pro...

The oil looks fine it just on the oil level glass that its cloudy and also a little white on the oil cap, i'll try and get a pic of it....
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Dude that does not look good at all. Drain the oil and check your coolant level.
Oil looks like honey or however it looks new and just gets darker and not milk creamy. When was the last time you changed the oil? how long have you had this bike?
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Dude that does not look good at all. Drain the oil and check your coolant level.
Oil looks like honey or however it looks new and just gets darker and not milk creamy. When was the last time you changed the oil? how long have you had this bike?
i've had it for 3 1/2 yrs when i bought it, it had 4000 miles. 2500 miles on the oil and i was getting ready to change it. i checked the coolant on the over flow jug and it is fine. havent looked in the radiator yet. the odd thing is i expected the oil to be milky and it looks like used oil would look. its just on the glass and on the cap. clutches look good from what i can see from looking in the cap....
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I know in some rare instances if the bike doesn't warm up enough the water vapor doesn't get burned off and thus mixes with the oil. Like short starts and runs. Maybe that's the case with yours, no? I've seen it happen with cars if they haven't been driven in a while or long enough.

edit: I'm no expert either... I'll let others more knowledgeable chime in.
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If you have carbs and not fuel injection. If the carbs are out of adjustment and running rich this will allow gas to contaminate the oil. As the extra unburnt gas can get by the rings on the exhaust stroke.

Water is the only thing I know of that will make the oil milky.
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Its probably just condensation. Run the bike till its warm and then change the oil. Check the radiator level while you are doing this.
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The "white" oil is a bigger issue imo....

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Also, depending on how milky the oil is you may or may not have an issue.
We live in a very humid environment and it's typical to get some condensation in the engine, particularly if it's run in short intervals.
The oil glass can also get a bit of milky residue that's difficult to remove.
I'd drain the oil and see how milky it truly is and either post up back here or give me a shout.
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I know in some rare instances if the bike doesn't warm up enough the water vapor doesn't get burned off and thus mixes with the oil. Like short starts and runs. Maybe that's the case with yours, no? I've seen it happen with cars if they haven't been driven in a while or long enough.

edit: I'm no expert either... I'll let others more knowledgeable chime in.
Maybe thats the case, i know i was running late to work this morning and didnt let the bike warm up like it should (just barely over 101 degrees) and my work is literally 3 miles from the house...

After letting it warm up and riding to get something to eat for lunch it appears not to be milky on the sight glass....guess i'll have to keep an eye on it after i change the oil this weekend. not to beat a dead horse cause i know i stated it before....but the oil its self is not milky at all, just the window....i'll keep you all posted. Thanks for the help!
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I know in some rare instances if the bike doesn't warm up enough the water vapor doesn't get burned off and thus mixes with the oil. Like short starts and runs. Maybe that's the case with yours, no? I've seen it happen with cars if they haven't been driven in a while or long enough.

edit: I'm no expert either... I'll let others more knowledgeable chime in.
this. always let bike warm up to full operating temp. ford straight 6's are real bad about it. first time i've seen it in a bike, but I haven't seen it all either. as far as fuel smell in the oil, most of my bikes have had that issue. I wouldn't stress unless something is acting weird.
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Maybe thats the case, i know i was running late to work this morning and didnt let the bike warm up like it should (just barely over 101 degrees) and my work is literally 3 miles from the house...

After letting it warm up and riding to get something to eat for lunch it appears not to be milky on the sight glass....guess i'll have to keep an eye on it after i change the oil this weekend. not to beat a dead horse cause i know i stated it before....but the oil its self is not milky at all, just the window....i'll keep you all posted. Thanks for the help!

there's your problem.
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