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Old 02-08-2012, 04:10 AM   #1
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attempted robbery.

I do have a bike but I'm NOT sure that what they were after. 12:30am my garage door starts to go up.(wakes wifey and I). So I go look out the front door peep hole and there stands a guy walking into my garage. I hit door to let them know I see him and he casually walks away. And I mean CASUALLY walks away. I guess he wasnt sure if he heard anything because he and a partner came back about 2 minutes later.

Basically they went into our car and used the door opener to open the garage.

Both were caught and are in jail tonight. Both were out on bond for what ever reason. About an hour before us, they robbed an older lady at Walmart. They litterally walked up to her and yanked her purse from her. So it was said by the cops. The lady was still at Walmart so they brought her to ID the guys. and it was the same ones.


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Shoulda shot em..... Glad those asshats are in jail though
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:53 AM   #3
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:00 AM   #4
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Except for the bond thing, one would think they were wanting/trying to get put back in...
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:14 AM   #5
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well isnt that some , what side of town?? not to worry ur family but since u did turn them in and they are out, i would be extra careful day or night
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I would have CASUALLY emptied the magazine into both of them and then I would have CASUALLY reloaded!
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if they are causing harm or you feel threatened by all means go for it.

This story makes me want to put a security cam in the garage so i can see whats going on. Then again i lock the garage from the inside and do not use a door opener (only because the motor gave out a couple of years ago
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if they are causing harm or you feel threatened by all means go for it.
In Texas the law allows for the use of deadly force to protect personal property at night (may apply to daytime too, not sure).
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290 and 1960.

Im not really worried about them returning. We'll see what happens. We all slept just fine last night. Even Wifey. They will get what coming to them if they do.
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Glad they werent breakin into ur house and you got them caught and ur fam is ok....

BUT..

Really my opinion, i would like to think i would open the door and shoot him, point blank, no questions asked. Really that is a woulda, And i promise that on my life, but i respect your decision. This is americas problem, were scared to kill somebody who is robbing or even attempting to rob us, b/c were worried about the law coming down on us. And frankly, ill put it to the test if i ever wake up to someone in my garage again also. Point being, shoulda killed a scumbag. But our fuckn laws might charge us for protecting our own land. and its fuckn pathetic. I dont care if i catch em runnin down the street back to me, gonna be flyn. This my continued rant from the hit and run illegal thing earlier that i cant find.
I think you did the right thing.

There is no reason to go out and confront them. Why risk being injured or killed. Before i had kids i would have responded the same way, but now some petty thugs are not worth me being dead. Grab a weapon, make them aware you have one and will use it if they come inside, then call the police. If they take stuff or break stuff thats what insurance is for.
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290 and 1960.
Great....Close to home! I moved further out to get away from scum like this. My old neighborhood was like the wild west!
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disclaimer: im not a lawyer
dont "shoot to kill" "shoot to stop a threat". using deadly force wit intent to kill is murder. if the person happens to die as an outcome of lawful use of deadly force is the same result approached from a different angle, but walking up to a criminal and plugging the guy in the head a few times after he hits the ground and is no longer a threat wont look too good...

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In Texas the law allows for the use of deadly force to protect personal property at night (may apply to daytime too, not sure).
click the link for better formatting. i bolded part bevo alluded to. look up definitions of robbery and burglary (they sound similar but arent the same)http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.u.../PE.9.htm#9.41

Sec. 9.41. PROTECTION OF ONE'S OWN PROPERTY. (a) A person in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on the land or unlawful interference with the property.(b) A person unlawfully dispossessed of land or tangible, movable property by another is justified in using force against the other when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to reenter the land or recover the property if the actor uses the force immediately or in fresh pursuit after the dispossession and:(1) the actor reasonably believes the other had no claim of right when he dispossessed the actor; or(2) the other accomplished the dispossession by using force, threat, or fraud against the actor.
Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994.

Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and(3) he reasonably believes that:(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.
Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994.
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IMO you did the right thing. Killing them would have been way more trouble than it was worth to you. Good job getting those losers off the street.
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I think you did the right thing.

There is no reason to go out and confront them. Why risk being injured or killed. Before i had kids i would have responded the same way, but now some petty thugs are not worth me being dead. Grab a weapon, make them aware you have one and will use it if they come inside, then call the police. If they take stuff or break stuff thats what insurance is for.
Grab a firearm if you need to shoot, not try to intimidate...

OP, I think you did a good job handling the situation. Your family is safe, and the perps are at least facing charges. For some, plan A would be confrontation via shotgun, which immediately opens a whole new set of possible consequences ,that probably aren't the best if its possible to avoid them.
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but walking up to a criminal and plugging the guy in the head a few times after he hits the ground and is no longer a threat wont look too good...
Why would the criminal be on the ground before you shoot? A weapon should not be displayed as a threat. If you have a weapon in your hand, you use it.
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