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Old 02-07-2012, 08:29 PM   #1
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Just purchased a new (2010) R1. Chuffed with the looks and that engine note is quality but have a few issues withthe bike. Wondered if any r1 riders out there had similar issues or suitable fixes.

Handling, bit of a pig to steer anyone fitted any expensive lighter after market wheels, how much did this improve the ability to flick it back an forth.

Heat,,omg after 40 miles is too hot and its still colder here not looking foward to summer. Ive read on internet a y pipe removing cat and after market pipes work. Is this really worth the expense. Will it have a dramatic effect?

Brakes,,, soft to borderline dangerous cant beleive a sportbike nowaday can have such brakes, dont remeber my 07 r1 being this bad.

Throttle response,,,, low rpm car park manners shocking worst on any bike ive had, throttle response jerky feels like a two stroker, wtf is this about again 07 had ride by wire and didnt feel as bad as this. Seriouly me off anyone have an idea would a power commander help.

Have the feeling this could be an awesome bike just needs some tweeks. If you have good ideas on the throttle response and heat issue please gimme a shout.
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Flash the ECU or buy one from jett tuning. This will de-restrict the bike giving full power. Braided brake lines should help with that. Lighter wheels will always quicken the steering but it might be the stabilizer also. Hot seat on an R1 is expected. You can use heat shielding and aftermarket slip on system.
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And watch where you park. New R1s seem to have an issue with heat damage on the instrument cluster.
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Just purchased a new (2010) R1. Chuffed with the looks and that engine note is quality but have a few issues withthe bike. Wondered if any r1 riders out there had similar issues or suitable fixes.

Handling, bit of a pig to steer anyone fitted any expensive lighter after market wheels, how much did this improve the ability to flick it back an forth.

Heat,,omg after 40 miles is too hot and its still colder here not looking foward to summer. Ive read on internet a y pipe removing cat and after market pipes work. Is this really worth the expense. Will it have a dramatic effect?

Brakes,,, soft to borderline dangerous cant beleive a sportbike nowaday can have such brakes, dont remeber my 07 r1 being this bad.

Throttle response,,,, low rpm car park manners shocking worst on any bike ive had, throttle response jerky feels like a two stroker, wtf is this about again 07 had ride by wire and didnt feel as bad as this. Seriouly me off anyone have an idea would a power commander help.

Have the feeling this could be an awesome bike just needs some tweeks. If you have good ideas on the throttle response and heat issue please gimme a shout.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:41 PM   #5
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Flash the ecu or fit jet tunning ecu is this a better option than a Power commander3 and can i expect this to improve the low rpm manners?

Is they jett tuning ecu progamme fine tuneable via a dyno run ?
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:41 PM   #6
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Handling- is not that but but hey i ride a Busa so anything is better then that

Heat- Hells yeah its only going to get worse exhaust wrap from headers to exhaust help abit i have yosh carbon trc exhaust so that help too

Brakes- first things that need to be replaced i absolutely hate them galfer lines w/ ebc pros are a big night n day difference

Throttle responese- on low end is absolute i hate it but i work around it anything above 4k and it acts awhole lot better but this is my .2 pesos I hope this info helps you out.
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I believe the Jett ECU is programmable but it's not as simple as a PC5. A flashed ECU just allows for full power like the Euro model. Go to the R1 forum and look into more options. It's not a cheap option. You could always look into the YEC race products that they sell through the Graves Yamaha site. The bike has loads of potential but is hampered by emmission restrictions and . Skies the limit when you starts with the mods.
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I bought an 09 r1 last year and sold it 5 months later. If you've had any other liter bike you will never be satisfied with it. I had graves system on it with the y pipe, helped a little with the heat but it was still hot. The bike also overheated a couple times on hot Sunday rides. I had a pc-v and k&n filter and it only dynoed at 149. Hope you enjoy yours more than I did.
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I bought an 09 r1 last year and sold it 5 months later. If you've had any other liter bike you will never be satisfied with it. I had graves system on it with the y pipe, helped a little with the heat but it was still hot. The bike also overheated a couple times on hot Sunday rides. I had a pc-v and k&n filter and it only dynoed at 149. Hope you enjoy yours more than I did.

149hp is kinda low. I'd think something wasn't done right or there were other problems holding it back. , according to Sport Rider magazine, my '06 had at least 154hp stock.
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Ok, I have yet to hear my solutions.

Handling: lighter wheels, yes. Not much more there. Welcome to litre bikes...

Heat: Y-pipe is a must! Other than that it's just a matter of heat shielding and header wrap.

Brakes: I went with Brembo calipers and steel braided lines as well as Galfer rotors. You don't necessarily have to go that far... Some good sintered pads and braided lines will get you pretty close though.

Throttle response: Remember your 3 mode settings. Play around with those. Another thing I did was sprockets. This R1 LOVES it when you go down a tooth front AND rear. Something different than the norm, but it works. The ECU was icing on the cake after all that.

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Handling, bit of a pig to steer anyone fitted any expensive lighter after market wheels, how much did this improve the ability to flick it back an forth.
Check the r1 forums, but a cheaper solution may be raising the rear ride height or lowering the front a tiny bit.

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Heat,,omg after 40 miles is too hot and its still colder here not looking foward to summer. Ive read on internet a y pipe removing cat and after market pipes work. Is this really worth the expense. Will it have a dramatic effect?
Helps, but all undertail exhaust R1's are -burners. Didn't your '07 do the same?

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Brakes,,, soft to borderline dangerous cant beleive a sportbike nowaday can have such brakes, dont remeber my 07 r1 being this bad.
Braided stainless lines oughta solve that, but try bleeding them first. In fact, just bleed the master.

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Throttle response,,,, low rpm car park manners shocking worst on any bike ive had, throttle response jerky feels like a two stroker, wtf is this about again 07 had ride by wire and didnt feel as bad as this. Seriouly me off anyone have an idea would a power commander help.
Spend the $550 to get the jett tuning ECU. It'll give you back the 10hp you're down vs a euro bike, and improves throttle response and compression braking significantly.
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Didn't even think about changing gearing. Don't forget the speedo healer with that.
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Didn't even think about changing gearing. Don't forget the speedo healer with that.
I didn't even consider that. I'm track only and tape over the speedo. Point for you, sir.

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Mine is an 08 R1 but the heat was unbearable even on cold nights. my legs and ankles were so hot. I could barely ride it. I put an Akro Y pipe and got ride of the 2 cats. and gutted the mufflers and made some home-made race baffles. And The heat totally went away. It is like a different bike as far as heat. Plus it sounds way better. As far as handling. I have not rode a newer model but definetly check the tire pressure. I can tell if my tire pressure is low just on how it handles. Huge difference. Good Luck and yes go the r1-forum.com
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Wow.... im astonished. Don't have any of this issues with my bike, further more it dynoed at 158. Turning is a lil' of a work out compared to others, but im on a motorcycle anyway (IMO)
My seat got hot during the summer, but the winter (supposedly winter) felt good, I went on very long rides with a lot of the guys on here, and never felt the heat intolerable .. my .02
People seen the bee in action, I guess we all don't have the same luck. Only mods I've done is the crank chain slack adjuster (it used to knock at cold start ups) it would make me grind my teeth, and a k&n filter.
One last thing... rev it a bit at take off.. or it feels like a twin trying to come out of 0 mph
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Handling: may be tire, dampener or chassis setup. All simple fixes.
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You could buy a 3k carbon fiber rim..........

Or just check your air pressure in the front tire
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