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Old 02-06-2012, 01:36 AM   #1
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Helicoil vs Time-Sert vs Alumiweld vs New Head

Sooo, my motard blew the spark plug out of the head, stripping the threads.

Possible fixes:

Heli-coil - Don't really like this idea
http://www.emhart.com/brands/heli-coil

Time-Sert - seems like a better idea to me than heli-coil, but dunno
http://www.timesert.com/

Alumiweld - a friend suggested welding up with this and redrilling/tapping
http://www.alumiweld.com/

New Head - Spendy, but shiny and new(er)


I've never had to deal with this, so any tips/tricks or personal experience with the above is appreciated.
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The alumiweld stuff sucks. I bought it a long time ago, it is not something I suggest for a spark plug thread repair. If you're going to weld it, take it to someone with aluminum welding experience. Helicoils are okay(not as good quality), but Time-serts are better(much more beefy). I would go with the Time-serts, It's a quick and reliable way to fix spark plug threads.
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Timeserts are great, but also helicoils are made for this as well, btw I'm purdy sure I have the kit to do this, lmk if U need help, No way would I alumiweld it for this kind of repair
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Just went through this with an 81 xr80 head. Timeserts or helicoils are going to be your best bet, but you are going to want to pull the cylinder for these reasons:
1) To ensure you get all the shavings out of the cylinder. You dont want shavings getting stuck in your valves or between the cylinder wall and piston rings. Thsi can cause permanent, expensive damage.
2) It will be much easier to get you bit and taps in straight.
If you have someone that has done this before and can help you that would be awesome. It seems simple enough but takes time and a little knowledge. You will basically be drilling out the old threads, then tapping a thread with a new die and inserting the insert that will be your new thread. You will want to use machine oil or similar lubricant to help the process and just take your time. Another key will be finding the correct size insert for your plug.
Good Luck!
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Just went through this with an 81 xr80 head. Timeserts or helicoils are going to be your best bet, but you are going to want to pull the cylinder for these reasons:
1) To ensure you get all the shavings out of the cylinder. You dont want shavings getting stuck in your valves or between the cylinder wall and piston rings. Thsi can cause permanent, expensive damage.
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If you have someone that has done this before and can help you that would be awesome. It seems simple enough but takes time and a little knowledge. You will basically be drilling out the old threads, then tapping a thread with a new die and inserting the insert that will be your new thread. You will want to use machine oil or similar lubricant to help the process and just take your time. Another key will be finding the correct size insert for your plug.
Good Luck!
heavy motor oil would work fine for just 1 . But if you can get some tap-magic would be best
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You will definitely need some lubricant. The timesert is way beefier for a 120-160 psi connection.
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since a thread that I started was referenced here...the timesert kit I picked up has worked out gloriously.
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Timeserts are great, but also helicoils are made for this as well, btw I'm purdy sure I have the kit to do this, lmk if U need help, No way would I alumiweld it for this kind of repair
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