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Old 02-03-2012, 02:10 PM   #1
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Lightbulb HOW TO: Setup and Lead a Noob Ride

This is a short punchlist of how to setup and lead a noob ride.
If there is something I missed, please let me know so I can edit.

1. Setting Up a Ride
-Decide if it’s going to be public or not. Will noobs try to show up to your “moderate” ride anyway?
-What kind of group ride is this going to be? Fast only, 2 group, noob pace only. YOU CANNOT HAVE A NOOB FRIENDLY RIDE WITH ONE GROUP at a SPIRITED PACE. It is not fair to the wide-range of experience within the group.
BE DELIBERATE ON WHAT KIND OF RIDE YOU ARE STARTING
-Have a set time, place, and set your requirements (gear, # stops, and destination)
-Always, always, always have a pre-ride meeting, gets everyone on same page
-Check for gas/gear/legality of bikes if necessary
-Ride your own ride – what does that mean? Most noobs CAN’T understand this, they don’t have enough experience

2. Where do Noobs go in the group?
-Single group, noobs should be in front and directly behind an experienced rider who can hold noob pace. If your group ride is not at a pace where noobs can follow and learn to navigate twisties, they will find their own corner entry speed and line= bad news.
-Two Groups: noobs go all in second group with a 2nd leader/sweeper
-Pure Noob Ride- Leader, Noob, Vet, Noob, Vet, Noob, Sweeper. Try to keep it to a max of 10 noobs/10 leaders on these rides so it's easier to keep track of everyone and their progression.

3. Ride Leaders
-You are not responsible for someone being stupid, but you are responsible for keeping the group together, no person left behind, making sure everyone feels comfortable on the ride, and setting an example.
-Know your routes- Make sure you have been down this route before, know trouble spots etc.
-Be able to set the pace effectively
-What’s “the pace” and how do you set it?
Pace is generally as fast as the slowest person in the group.
-Check your mirrors/look back after turns to see how the group is making it through
-Be able to identify weak riders, stick them with a veteran rider as soon as safely possible
-BE SMOOTH- this includes, accelerating, passing, cornering, and decelerating (acordian)
-Must be able to ask someone to ride within requirements- unsafe riding/passing in lane
-KNOW YOUR HAND SIGNS! Kicking your foot out is NOT a sign to change lanes/position
-When to set the formation (single file/staggered)
-GAS everyone stops when one person is out.

4. Sweepers
-Just as important as leaders. They are the eyes and ears of the group.
-Let leader know if there’s a problem with someone’s riding: good or bad
-Stays behind NO MATTER WHAT, NO ONE LEFT BEHIND
Leader will stop when the sweeper is not at next checkpoint or in visual range
-Best idea to know leader, or a few people in the group with cell # in case of emergency
-Reassure any noobs of all the above and you have no problem going as slow as they feel comfortable

5. Emergencies
-Pull over when SAFE, do not risk the lives of more for the accident of one
-Have someone downroad flagging traffic to slow down if necessary.
-Do NOT remove helmet unless constricting the rider’s airway
-Assess the severity of the crash, and dial 911 if appropriate
This thread on MH tells you much more than I can here:
Accident Management

-Most important objective of a group ride? EVERYONE GOES HOME.
You set up these rides and lead them. Be a leader, coach these new people the right way.

***NOTE to NOOBS- If you would like to join a ride that is publicly posted, talk to the person that set it up or the assigned leader to double check the pace. If it says any words like "Moderate pace, Spirited ride, or kicking it up a new notches", please think twice about going. Not only are you endangering yourself, but you might be hindering the group as well.

SUMMARY
It’s easy to be a badass, especially on the interwebz, until it’s one of your friends that passes away right in front of you. It could haunt you for life. We need to be making sure that our intentions for different rides are stated clearly. This is a good community of riders, and unfortunately accidents are bound to happen in this sport! However, we should try to keep our members safe, ESPECIALLY THE NOOBS, while enjoying the thing we love doing best.






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Example for Setting Up the Ride:
Date: 2-4-12 (Saturday)
Ride category: Noob (explaining what makes a noob rider)
Destination: Yankees
Meet Spot: PP69
Time: 8:30 a.m.
Mandatory Meeting: 9 a.m. (Only riders that attend the meeting may ride)
KSU: 9:30

Leader/ Leaders: Senator, Bevo
Sweeper/ Sweepers: Jimrad, viffer

Minimum gear: full-face Helmet, Jacket, gloves, knee protection, ankle high boots, ICE card in jacket chest pocket or right pocket.

Rules:
1) No passing.. Maintain your position in the group, until, sweeper decides to make necessary change.
2) 3 car length distance maintained while in motion.
3) etc
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:17 PM   #2
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:28 PM   #5
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:42 PM   #7
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There are riders that think they are "good enough" to NOT be "noobs".. In their eyes, they have been riding...commuting....dirt biking...what not for 3-4 years...But, as soon as you hit a few corners the truth comes out...That's when the sweeper or any other rider that witnesses the so called "expert" running wide or grabbing too much break in corners...etc..should get the attention of the leader/ sweeper or other riders to stop and talk to the rider. Anything that can be done to avoid the "expert" from crashing.

NO ONE SHOULD FEEL THREATNED/ BULLIED/ HARASSED OR ASHAMED TO CORRECT SOMEONE OR BE CORRECTED BY SOMEONE...
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Good info!

"-You are not responsible for someone being stupid, but you are responsible for keeping the group together, no person left behind, making sure everyone feels comfortable on the ride, and setting an example."

Someone acting stupid on a noob ride should be asked to leave.
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There are riders that think they are "good enough" to NOT be "noobs".. In their eyes, they have been riding...commuting....dirt biking...what not for 3-4 years...But, as soon as you hit a few corners the truth comes out...That's when the sweeper or any other rider that witnesses the so called "expert" running wide or grabbing too much break in corners...etc..should get the attention of the leader/ sweeper or other riders to stop and talk to the rider. Anything that can be done to avoid the "expert" from crashing.

NO ONE SHOULD FEEL THREATNED/ BULLIED/ HARASSED OR ASHAMED TO CORRECT SOMEONE OR BE CORRECTED BY SOMEONE...
+1.

Stats show that brand new people aren't even the most likely to have a severe crash.

It's riders that have 6-18 months of experience. They have a little bit of experience now, coupled with inflating confidence and ends up being a bad mixture.
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Excellent work sir! For taking the initiative and for valuable contributions, I, despite having no authority, declare you MH's first official SRL (Safe Ride Leader).

...unless that acronym has some other dirty meaning I'm unfamiliar with. Then we're changing it.
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I have been riding for 2 years now and still haven't been on a group ride. I appreciate this thread, it answered some questions I had. Thx :thumbup:

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This is freakin' awesome. Consider me signed up for ANY ride Senator posts up.
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Cali and the Forest Gnomes put on good organized rides.

Good stuff Bill.
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Excellent work sir! For taking the initiative and for valuable contributions, I, despite having no authority, declare you MH's first official SRL (Safe Ride Leader).

...unless that acronym has some other dirty meaning I'm unfamiliar with. Then we're changing it.
Thanks Mala! I did learn from a lot of the OGs on here, so there's a few other people that definitely deserve a title or some sort, such as SRL.

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THIS IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.

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Good stuff Bill.
Hey Joe! Long time, no see. Matt is def one of the guys I learned from on my first group "sportbike" rides when I got here in 09. A little different than some of the cruiser rides I went on as a teenager.
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When posting a noobs only or friendly ride, I will title it...

This ride will follow the Senator method of noob riding.


Good job bro, like we said at the meet...it's the elephant in the room that we all need to acknowledge.
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Thanks Mala! I did learn from a lot of the OGs on here, so there's a few other people that definitely deserve a title or some sort, such as SRL.


THIS IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.






Hey Joe! Long time, no see. Matt is def one of the guys I learned from on my first group "sportbike" rides when I got here in 09. A little different than some of the cruiser rides I went on as a teenager.
Senator, I met you out at the Forest Gnome ride a while back when Matt still led the pack. Good to see you summarized your points from the Central Meet (I'm assuming) and posted them up here for everybody to see. Thanks for sharing
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