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Old 02-01-2012, 05:33 PM   #21
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How does the PC save you tuning over the Bazzaz? The available DL tunes?
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That was my understanding. I can do minor fuel adjustments with the PC but I thought I read that the Bazzaz is more involved
No, there are DL-able maps for both. The Bazzaz is definitely more involved if you want it to be though. It also has the wideband O2 autotuning function to setup base maps to tune off of.

Bazzaz is definitely harder to install because it works off top and lower injectors instead of just the top ones like PCIII, but again that leads to a better tune.

I like both BTW. Just stating differences.
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Old 02-01-2012, 05:38 PM   #22
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Does the 07 750 have secondary injectors?
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:37 PM   #23
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Yes, it does. The PC-V controls the bottom/primary injectors.
My favorite set up right now is a PC-V and Autotune.
It typically takes less than 1000 miles of riding to get a perfect map.
Once done take the Autotune off and save it for your next bike.
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I can nail a tune in way less than 1k miles. I have checked my map on the dyno at Tejas. The way you ride it dictates how many miles to get it perfect. For nitrous jet changes I will add 10% per jet size and accept the suggested changes after each run. Autotune is the if you plan on making frequent changes.
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I can nail a tune in way less than 1k miles. I have checked my map on the dyno at Tejas. The way you ride it dictates how many miles to get it perfect. For nitrous jet changes I will add 10% per jet size and accept the suggested changes after each run. Autotune is the if you plan on making frequent changes.
On bikes where on/off throttle or slight throttle openings are important it takes time to build a perfect map for every throttle setting throughout the entire range.
When you say you verified your map, did you just check WOT settings from idle to redline or for every single throttle point from 2% to 100% from idle to redline? Also in every gear from 1st through 6th if you have gear specific mapping enabled?
If you managed to get all of that data within 200 miles than my hat is off to you sir.
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I considered the extra $$ for a PCV with autotune module but this bike will never get my full attention. Pretty different from the hacked ECU with secondary boost referenced alky injection on my STI and 'bolt on' Z28.

Next bike might get the full treatment but I don't have the skills to really make use of a few extra hp. Not yet anyway.
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Old 02-02-2012, 12:13 PM   #27
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On bikes where on/off throttle or slight throttle openings are important it takes time to build a perfect map for every throttle setting throughout the entire range.
When you say you verified your map, did you just check WOT settings from idle to redline or for every single throttle point from 2% to 100% from idle to redline? Also in every gear from 1st through 6th if you have gear specific mapping enabled?
If you managed to get all of that data within 200 miles than my hat is off to you sir.
Im not trying to argue with you. I do mostly WOT throttle on mine. It was real easy to map mine. Road racing and drag racing are 2 different animals. I was giving my experience with the autotune. My bike only sees 7k-11k at the track and all at 100% past about the 60' mark. It works well for me. It handles the nitrous changes quickly too.
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You drag racing guys have it so easy
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You drag racing guys have it so easy
I hope that was a joke
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:21 PM   #30
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Oh yea, IMO drag racing is right up there with monster trucks in destructive force. Tried it for a while but went broke in the budgeting stage haha
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I have about 4500 in parts in the motor alone. Im only making 190 on motor right now. Im and cant seem to make myself pull the motor again (3rd time) right now. Its sitting in the garage. It should be making about 220 after the build and 270 on a little dope. I'm frustrated as .
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bring it by our shop. Area 51 cycles. we can put it on our dyno and make a custom map for you so you don't have to guess when your tweeking it. $150 gets your tune and h.p. pulls
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bring it by our shop. Area 51 cycles. we can put it on our dyno and make a custom map for you so you don't have to guess when your tweeking it. $150 gets your tune and h.p. pulls
Where is your shop? I'm interested in finding optimal A/F ratio on my bike.
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