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Old 01-31-2012, 01:58 PM   #1
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Question power commander

Its time for powah!!!

Question, what is the real world difference between the pc3 and pcV? The newer one has some fancy add-on gadgets but I'm trying to get a plug-n-play fuel controller that I don't need to with after first setup.

Obviously, hard parts benefit from tweaking the map but I don't want to mess with the map because weather changes. There will always be a few hidden ponies and I'm not concerned with them. The key for me is reliable power year round. Any bump in mpg cruising is sort of a bonus.
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:59 PM   #2
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1. MORE COMPACT
Reduced size from PCIIIusb (less than half of the size of PCIII)


2. SENSITIVE TO MORE SOURCES OF INPUT FROM ENGINE
Gear/Speed input (allows for map adjustment based on gear and speed)

Analog input (allows user to install any 0-5 volt sensor and build an adjustment table based on its input such as boost or temperature)

With gear position input connected the PCV is capable of allowing each cylinder to be mapped individually and for each gear (for example: on a 4 cylinder bike with a six speed transmission there could be up to 24 separate fuel tables).


3. GREATER RANGE OF ADJUSTMENT
Unit has a -100/+250% fuel change range (up from -100/+100%). This allows more adjustment range for 8 injector sportbikes PCIII has a +/-100% range

10 throttle position columns (up from 9 on PCIIIusb)

Enhanced “accel pump” utility (increased adjustment and sensitivity ranges)

2 position map switching function built in (map switch not included)

4. AUTOTUNE EXPANDABLE
Auto Tune for PCV (all models):
“Auto Tune” kit will be available that includes Wide Band O2 sensor(s) and control box(es). It will plug directly into the PCV and allow automatic fuel adjustments.


Bazzaz is a good option IMO also. You sound like the PC3 would be fine

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Old 01-31-2012, 03:09 PM   #3
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I agree with Bluewave's opinion too. PCIII is the way to go for you. Sounds like you wouldn't use anything more. Install it, download a free map that has similar mods on your bike, and be done with it.

Bazzaz zFI is a little more expensive, but works on all 8 injectors, not just the top 4.
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Ordered PC3 for $250 from motomummy (austin based company) Tuesday afternoon and received this morning. BMC street filter, PC3, and M4 full exhaust here I come


Thanks bluewave, I'm MUCH more comfortable with my purchase after that explanation
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You know it Mike! If you're gonna get a PC, motomummy has the best prices. I checked everywhere haha
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No problem. Glad I could help. You gonna get it tuned or planning on DL a tune?
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Billy at Tejas. I have only been on their dyno about 8 times though
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Billy at Tejas. I have only been on their dyno about 8 times though
Haha I'd say that counts as a credible reference.


The main reason I went with the PC over Bazzaz is to avoid the extra cost of dyno tunes. This is going to be a holding point on the bike until my project car is done then daily driver gets a bigger turbo to hit 400+ whp
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How does the PC save you tuning over the Bazzaz? The available DL tunes?
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How does the PC save you tuning over the Bazzaz? The available DL tunes?
That was my understanding. I can do minor fuel adjustments with the PC but I thought I read that the Bazzaz is more involved
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That was my understanding. I can do minor fuel adjustments with the PC but I thought I read that the Bazzaz is more involved
Its just as easy to use the Bazzaz. I have the auto tuner on mine now
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