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Old 01-12-2012, 03:09 PM   #1
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motard/dual sport help

Im thinking of getting a motard/dual sport and was wondering whats the best option to go with. I've ridden sport bikes and dirt bikes for years but the motard stuff is kinda new to me. Is a yamaha wr250x too small and will the power be disapointing. just want to hear some opinions.
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What are you wanting to do with it? Off road with a little street to get you here and there? Back roads? Race? Stunt? This all plays alot into what tard to get
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WR250/DRZ400/XR650 are the only ones I would recommend for street duty.

If you are going to track only, then there are a bunch of options.
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WR250/DRZ400/XR650 are the only ones I would recommend for street duty.

If you are going to track only, then there are a bunch of options.
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I owned a wr250x and I loved that bike. Great fun and super light. ONLY thing i would have liked to see out of it was more power. That been said, i could still easily pop a wheelie in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear. The single cylinder 4 stroke engine has some pep but it won't compare to a 250 or 450 MX bike converted for street use.
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I owned a wr250x and I loved that bike. Great fun and super light. ONLY thing i would have liked to see out of it was more power. That been said, i could still easily pop a wheelie in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear. The single cylinder 4 stroke engine has some pep but it won't compare to a 250 or 450 MX bike converted for street use.
at the risk of being a doucher, the wr250x only weighs 20lbs less than a drz400sm.

Although I've always wanted to get one and put the MPfab turbo kit on it.

http://www.mpfab.com/wr250/

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at the risk of being a doucher, the wr250x only weighs 20lbs less than a drz400sm.

Although I've always wanted to get one and put the MPfab turbo kit on it.

http://www.mpfab.com/wr250/

I would love to ride that bike...
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at the risk of being a doucher, the wr250x only weighs 20lbs less than a drz400sm.

Although I've always wanted to get one and put the MPfab turbo kit on it.

http://www.mpfab.com/wr250/

Mother of thats the .
I wonder how the stock crank and motor hold up under that power. COuld you imagine a fully built motor with that set-up/ Their site kind of sucks , no prices or details.

Back on topic. I really enjoy my DR350 because it is light enough I can pick it up when I fall over on a steep muddy downgrade, but has enough motor to let me cruise the highway at 75 mph. The DRZ400 only has 5 gears vs. the 6th on the DR350, but they are bith very capable. if you are just riding street and a little dirt then I would go with an XR650 or KLR650, but if thats the case just buy a touring bike cause they arent worth much in the dirt. Enduros are meant to spend their time in the trails and hopping across roads, not the other way around.
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don't forget the ktm's with the lc4 motors. the 625smc, the 690smc and 690smr. the motor has proven itself time and time again to be VERY reliable. the shim over bucket valve design makes for VERY decent maintenance intervals - to the tune of ~7500 or so between checks.

and it's got more power than most people have .

edit: and there's no "mods" that really NEED to be done. just throttle stop removal, air filter, jet kit, and run it. comes factory with titanium headers and dual pipes.
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don't forget the ktm's with the lc4 motors. the 625smc, the 690smc and 690smr. the motor has proven itself time and time again to be VERY reliable. the shim over bucket valve design makes for VERY decent maintenance intervals - to the tune of ~7500 or so between checks.

and it's got more power than most people have .

edit: and there's no "mods" that really NEED to be done. just throttle stop removal, air filter, jet kit, and run it. comes factory with titanium headers and dual pipes.
If the prices were more friendly then I would own one. They are like the Ducs of dirt/dual sport/motard!
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Mother of thats the .
I wonder how the stock crank and motor hold up under that power. COuld you imagine a fully built motor with that set-up/ Their site kind of sucks , no prices or details.

Back on topic. I really enjoy my DR350 because it is light enough I can pick it up when I fall over on a steep muddy downgrade, but has enough motor to let me cruise the highway at 75 mph. The DRZ400 only has 5 gears vs. the 6th on the DR350, but they are bith very capable. if you are just riding street and a little dirt then I would go with an XR650 or KLR650, but if thats the case just buy a touring bike cause they arent worth much in the dirt. Enduros are meant to spend their time in the trails and hopping across roads, not the other way around.
They don't hold up...there is a guy on SMJ who added that kit and his motor didn't like it....

Yea only draw back to the DRZ is its 5 speed. But in stock gearing it will comfortably cruise at 70-75. I have a set of S off road wheels I use and it handles the trails good enough to have fun...
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there's an 04 625smc for sale here in houston... ON THIS BOARD. asking $4k or something for it. two sets of body work. clean bike. the 04-06 are the same bike. only years they made the smaller lc4 motor (in america that is) (as far as i know)
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justin, check this bike out. http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=157318

i just picked one up, and if you wanna come put around the neighborhood on mine, feel free. it's got old slippery tires on it so hard stops with rear braking is kinda sketchy at the moment, but the power delivery is pretty solid. i'd bet that seller would let you test ride his with cash in hand in case, you know?
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They don't hold up...there is a guy on SMJ who added that kit and his motor didn't like it....

Yea only draw back to the DRZ is its 5 speed. But in stock gearing it will comfortably cruise at 70-75. I have a set of S off road wheels I use and it handles the trails good enough to have fun...
that's b/c the system continuously creates pressure (from the turbo) and always trying to pump it into the system. with a single cylinder, your intake valve(s) are closed for half the cycle. meaning you're pumping air into nothing while the valves are closed and then it explodes into the cylinder once they open back up. it's a good idea, but better for a 2+ cylinder motor. more even distribution of that compressed air.
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