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Old 12-31-2011, 04:45 PM   #21
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I put engine ice in for coolant, wraped header, insulated air box, toggle switch for fan and my bike never see's over 200 deg.
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all zx10 (gen 1+2) tanks whistle. its completely normal...
you sure? My 05 has never "whistled" from the tank, ever.

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Old 01-02-2012, 12:18 AM   #23
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you sure? My 05 has never "whistled" from the tank, ever.

i have an '05 myself, and mine whistles. it's just the pressure relief, but i've only heard it a handful of times. it may not be every single bike, but it definitely is normal
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no . really? why is that?
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Old 01-02-2012, 01:43 AM   #25
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Don't use water, use this stuff...you can find it at gas stations in the cooler with drinks.

nos energy drink

I heard it does wonders for GSXR's, so it must be good.
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no . really? why is that?

i don't know. metallurgy?
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All Kawasaki's whistle like that. It's because the manufacturer knows you'll never get curb monkeys on a Ninja thanks to Vanilla Ice up the reputation. So they make the gas tank whistle at you so you can still feel like you're getting that much needed attention and validation as a super awesome daredevil.
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Don't use water, use this stuff...you can find it at gas stations in the cooler with drinks.

I heard it does wonders for GSXR's, so it must be good.

Lol I'm assuming you have seen the thread about this. Well for those of you who haven't, which i'm sure there is only a handful, here ya go: http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226570

And for sakes I know its a repost.
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Very simple to fix this.
Just remove your engine. Take it apart piece by piece and lay them all out on the driveway. Wash them all down with a couple gallons of diesel fuel and spray them off with the hose. At that point the problem will be obvious to all your neighbors. If you can't see it just ask one of them. Then just simply put it back together in reverse order.
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Put a camel back on the gas tank full of ice. It helps cool the tank..
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Put a camel back on the gas tank full of ice. It helps cool the tank..
No no no. Drop some dry ice in the tank, it makes the gasoline more dense through super cooling thus putting more fuel into the cylinders. Just like a supercharger or turbo delivers a fuel mixture that's more dense.
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So thats what i have been doing wrong
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i don't know. metallurgy?
Actually, cracking would happen from rapid expansion and contraction. Pipe expands when hot, then contracts when it cools. These effects vary greatly depending on the type of titanium, CP1 "or commercially pure" is very malleable and accepts heat variances very well. If the pipes are an alloy you could have very different responses to heating and cooling for example, 6/4 ti has 6% alminum and 4% vanadium giving it a higher tensil strength. Then there is 6/6/2 ti which has 6% aluminum 6% vanadium and 2% tin (even higher tensil strength). The more you augment the alloy will affect the way it handles heat dissipation. Considering that it is unlikely they are using aerospace superalloys like 6/4 or 6/6/2, I'd guess they are using cp1. Also, wrapping headers may increase the actual temperature of the header but also reduces the rate at which the header cools so I can't see how it would make them crack unless they are expanding at such an extreme amount that the welds can't handle it. My .02 find out what grade of ti you have there or contact the manufacturer and see what they recommend.
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Actually, cracking would happen from rapid expansion and contraction. Pipe expands when hot, then contracts when it cools. These effects vary greatly depending on the type of titanium, CP1 "or commercially pure" is very malleable and accepts heat variances very well. If the pipes are an alloy you could have very different responses to heating and cooling for example, 6/4 ti has 6% alminum and 4% vanadium giving it a higher tensil strength. Then there is 6/6/2 ti which has 6% aluminum 6% vanadium and 2% tin (even higher tensil strength). The more you augment the alloy will affect the way it handles heat dissipation. Considering that it is unlikely they are using aerospace superalloys like 6/4 or 6/6/2, I'd guess they are using cp1. Also, wrapping headers may increase the actual temperature of the header but also reduces the rate at which the header cools so I can't see how it would make them crack unless they are expanding at such an extreme amount that the welds can't handle it. My .02 find out what grade of ti you have there or contact the manufacturer and see what they recommend.
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Actually, cracking would happen from rapid expansion and contraction. Pipe expands when hot, then contracts when it cools. These effects vary greatly depending on the type of titanium, CP1 "or commercially pure" is very malleable and accepts heat variances very well. If the pipes are an alloy you could have very different responses to heating and cooling for example, 6/4 ti has 6% alminum and 4% vanadium giving it a higher tensil strength. Then there is 6/6/2 ti which has 6% aluminum 6% vanadium and 2% tin (even higher tensil strength). The more you augment the alloy will affect the way it handles heat dissipation. Considering that it is unlikely they are using aerospace superalloys like 6/4 or 6/6/2, I'd guess they are using cp1. Also, wrapping headers may increase the actual temperature of the header but also reduces the rate at which the header cools so I can't see how it would make them crack unless they are expanding at such an extreme amount that the welds can't handle it. My .02 find out what grade of ti you have there or contact the manufacturer and see what they recommend.

uhm... that all sounds like a single word I posted earlier. BTW... it doesn't matter what you think... it matters that is known to happen and it isn't recommended. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wrapping+titani...Ride Smart%2C+cracking
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for what it's worth... stainless is more flexible then titanium... my understanding is that wrapping ti retains heat and creates hot spots that create expansion that the non flexible ti cannot endure.... hence the cracking
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