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Old 12-27-2011, 01:18 PM   #1
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My son bought me a Camel Back for Christmas. Man that thing looks GR8 because of all the pockets 'n stuff. But I was wondering if anyone else has one because I was thinking of filling the water reservoir with just ice. As it melts - COLD WATER to drink - - - -

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Will it freeze the 773H out of your back??
I also assume something like Gatorade or Powerade is the best to fill it with..... although I'll probably just go with Monster or Red Bull . . . .

Any good suggestions on using one?
Should I consider any extra insulation to help keep cold stuff cold?
Any problems?
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:30 PM   #2
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bevo has one i dont think he ever freeze it, but i could be wrong
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:31 PM   #3
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I have one. I usually put water and ice in it or Gatorade and ice.

Sure the Gatorade gets a little watered down but it's no big deal.

Mine doesn't freeze my back, either.
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Old 12-27-2011, 01:32 PM   #4
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My son bought me a Camel Back for Christmas. Man that thing looks GR8 because of all the pockets 'n stuff. But I was wondering if anyone else has one because I was thinking of filling the water reservoir with just ice.

Half fill the bladder with H2O and put in freezer overnight. Prior to your ride/usage, fill bladder to full capacity.

As it melts - COLD WATER to drink - - - -

OR

Will it freeze the 773H out of your back??

No.

I also assume something like Gatorade or Powerade is the best to fill it with..... although I'll probably just go with Monster or Red Bull . . . .

You could. However, be mindful that the bladder will absorb the dye in fluids you fill it up with and will discolor.

Any good suggestions on using one?

Wash the bladder and hose often to prevent mold from taking residence inside.

Use as often as possible when riding for long periods of time. Dehydration can set in unexpectedly due to lack of hydration while riding (increase loss of moisture from skin through air/wind when riding)

Should I consider any extra insulation to help keep cold stuff cold?

If your camelback does not have the neoprene insulation wrapped around the hose, I would suggest getting one that has. It helps.

Any problems
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^ Great info
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if you decide to put something other than just water and ice in your camelback be advised that unless you rinse it out THOROUGHLY when you get done with it you will within one day be growing your own strange new life forms in the bladder and the drinking tube because it is the perfect environment for all kinds of nasty stuff to nurture and grow.

I never put anything but water and ice in mine. You will be surprised how long a combination of half ice/water will stay cold, even on the hottest days.

After I take a drink, I blow the fluid back into the bladder so I don't get a shot of hot water on the next drink.
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Yeah, that's all good stuff - Good things to consider. Thanks for the tips.
Ever have any problems with them?

I'm good about cleaning stuff out, but it's good to hear that it won't make a real cold spot on the back.
I never thought about insulating the tube or blowing it back, but I'm sure one shot of hot drink would mandate a quick solution of some sort. Blowing it back sounds like a good idea.
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I would avoid carbonated drinks your pretty much strapping a bomb to your back and the pressure relief valve is generally close to your face.
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I put the bladdersin the freezer when not being used to prevent dealing with drying them out for storage etc.

Just clean and put in the freezer until the next use.

i also only suggest water and ice. But if you want something more you can find additives like gatorade in tablets to put in that won't create a buildup in the bladder. Can find them at REI and some other places.
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Old 12-28-2011, 08:49 AM   #10
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I have a Hydrapak. I fill the removable bladder the night before a ride and put it in the refrigerator. The pak is pretty well insulated and the water stays cold to cool for hours. To make sure I always get a cool sip, I let the water drain back into the bladder after every drink because any water left in the tube gets hot because it's exposed.

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I've had a few Camelbaks/hydration packs over the years and have put Gatorade and similar drinks in them countless times. No issues, no strange new life forms. I clean it just as I would for water. I don't know if the mil-spec units with NSN numbers have any treatment or materials in the bladders and hoses that the commercial units do not, but I've never had a problem. I rarely ride longer than an hour without one.
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Good ideas. Good replies!!!!!!!!! I might consider tablets. I go for rides that are over 4 hrs and if I drain the bag and can only fill it with water - - It would be GR8 to just drop in a tab kuz you can store those in one of the many pockets.
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the big issue with using anything other than water is it will mold if left inside (clean with bleach and water).

Platypus used to make a 4L size that has a giant ziplock like seal, super convenient for adding ice. Last time I was at REI I could not find a replacement with the zipper.

If you need some salts/electrolytes try the pills. You can store those in your pockets too.

I never froze mine because I was afraid it would pop.
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I'm aware of the unwanted life form issue - ha ha ha. I thought this would be a pretty basic thread but it has brought up another question -

Do you wear one when you are riding track?
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Do you wear one when you are riding track?
Not for 20 minute sessions, anyway, if you did, you'd have to keep the tube in your mouth because you might be a little too busy to reach for it with a hand.
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you could also use Reusable Ice Cubes so it doesn't water you Gatorade..
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The Mil-Spec hydration packs. They seem to be a hit and miss as the bladders are not as durable. Not sure what company they go through to make them. As for Camel-Baks, I've been using them since they first came out and have not had a problem with them. I've done gatorade, water, and beer. I have never froze water in the bladder over but instead just fill it up with water and throw it in the fridge. You can top off with ice or fill it up full with ice and top off. It's not going to freeze your back. These hold up pretty well and I've tested mine from 30-140* weather.

You can by chlorine tablets at academy, REI, Bass Pro, Cabelas, Sports Authority, etc. Basically most places that stock Camel Bak carries it.

A good thing what Bevo mentioned is to let the water drain back into the bladder so the first sip is a cold one and not a hot one. The line insulation is a great thing and helps a lot but the water in it still will get warm regardless.

You might see me with my woodland green Camel Bak on rides stocked with munchies, first-aid, gatorade and salt-tablets, etc.

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