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Old 11-28-2006, 12:51 AM   #41
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as long as you decrease the amount of braking the further you lean you wont crash unless you have old, worn , or cupped tires. oh and if you dont make the turn and your heading for grass brake on the concrete not the grass unless you have something in front of you like a fence

oh and glad your ok dude. if you need some parts let me know, i also have parts for that bike
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Old 11-28-2006, 08:13 AM   #42
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I don't think trail braking would have helped in the middle of an S-curve, when he was already dragging peg and headed wide. Plus once you realize you are headed off the road, target fixation takes effect.

Now, sliding your off the seat so you can get more peg clearance would have helped immensely.... and probably stopped this thread before it began.
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Old 11-28-2006, 09:12 AM   #43
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I don't think trail braking would have helped in the middle of an S-curve, when he was already dragging peg and headed wide. Plus once you realize you are headed off the road, target fixation takes effect.

Now, sliding your off the seat so you can get more peg clearance would have helped immensely.... and probably stopped this thread before it began.
True I guess I already assumed he was off the seat.
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:21 AM   #44
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what time was this yesterday i was out there from about 1030 to 1330 ...glad to hear you made out ok
This happened around 2:45 - 3:00pm
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:18 PM   #45
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A knee on the ground would have let you know where the bike is in its lean angle so you could have hung off more to get the bike up. You should have lowsided the bike instead of standing it up. When in doubt, lean it some more! I have never dragged the pegs on anything but an SV650 (they are real low). I bet the pegs draging spooked you and caused you to go wide. I know my first peg drag scared me.
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Hmm, guess they never heard of trail braking huh?
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I know where gixxerbill is going with his questions when he acted surprisingly about the MSF question.

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Old 11-28-2006, 12:48 PM   #48
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A knee on the ground would have let you know where the bike is in its lean angle so you could have hung off more to get the bike up. You should have lowsided the bike instead of standing it up. When in doubt, lean it some more! I have never dragged the pegs on anything but an SV650 (they are real low). I bet the pegs draging spooked you and caused you to go wide. I know my first peg drag scared me.
yea, I see what your saying but this was not the first time I'v been draging peg. I knew I couldn't lean any further being my was all the way to the left side of the seat and the front tire was starting to get loose and skip. As for lowsiding the bike, I would rather take it to the grass over asphalt or concrete anyday.
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yea, I see what your saying but this was not the first time I'v been draging peg. I knew I couldn't lean any further being my was all the way to the left side of the seat and the front tire was starting to get loose and skip. As for lowsiding the bike, I would rather take it to the grass over asphalt or concrete anyday.
Standing upright in the grass is the right thing to do when you already know that you have to run off. Gixxerbill is right, trail braking coulda save you from running off. Trail braking is an art and if you mastered it, you can ride like a pro.
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Trail braking is an art and if you mastered it, you can ride like a pro.
Well, Pros still crash too.
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Old 11-28-2006, 01:32 PM   #51
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Standing upright in the grass is the right thing to do when you already know that you have to run off. Gixxerbill is right, trail braking coulda save you from running off. Trail braking is an art and if you mastered it, you can ride like a pro.
Yep, but is used 99.9% getting into the corner.. not mid way and heading out of it... midway thru a corner at max lean on the throttle, not recommend to dab the brakes back on.

I also noted he had his halfway off the seat.. my heavy pig requires me to get all the way off.. tothe point just the back of my thigh is on the seat...

something to consider if you want to get waaaaaaayy over!
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Next time you ride, you need someone to take a picture of you in a lean angle. Hopefully you weren't doing what this guy is doing. The whole time, he thought he was hanging way off too. He had his over but the rest of his body was pushing the bike down into the pavement.
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Here is a picture of me exiting a corner and bringing the bike up for the next S curve at deals gap.
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Next time you ride, you need someone to take a picture of you in a lean angle. Hopefully you weren't doing what this guy is doing. The whole time, he thought he was hanging way off too. He had his over but the rest of his body was pushing the bike down into the pavement.

Good pics Brian.

I remember Henry (FZ1Moto) saying at LSTD to the class: People may think they are hanging off, but :icon_bigg .., they are not.
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Next time you ride, you need someone to take a picture of you in a lean angle. Hopefully you weren't doing what this guy is doing. The whole time, he thought he was hanging way off too. He had his over but the rest of his body was pushing the bike down into the pavement.
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Old 11-28-2006, 04:49 PM   #55
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The F4 pegs hang low... ask Stephe_0 about that one.
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Glad your ok. I agree the grass is more forgiving than asphalt.
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joey, wives dont like it when you lay it down... good thing you're alright though. I had a wreck doin' 30mph, got a concussion, 3 broken ribs and a torn spleen from which i bled out over half of the blood in my body. Took 7 days in the hospital and a scar from sternum to navel... you are one lucky MF my friend!!
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dude r u lucky... glad ur ok... post some pic of ur bike when u can
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joey, wives dont like it when you lay it down... good thing you're alright though. I had a wreck doin' 30mph, got a concussion, 3 broken ribs and a torn spleen from which i bled out over half of the blood in my body. Took 7 days in the hospital and a scar from sternum to navel... you are one lucky MF my friend!!
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The F4 pegs hang low... ask Stephe_0 about that one.
They do on the F4i... but still, yall are just asking to be hurt badly or worse by riding that way!

Doesn't anyone here learn from others mistakes and misfortunes? Don't you have any feeling of responsibility to your loved ones to come home safely?

I love to go fast just as much as anyone else, but in the past 2 years or so I've REALLY changed my riding style reading about all of the bad accidents and visiting one too many friends in the hospital.
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