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Old 12-14-2011, 08:00 PM   #21
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I could be mistaken but when the police evaluate accidents, they can look at damage, how far someone slid, impact, witnesses (if you are going 80 and car or bike goes by you that is something you could probably judge). So a speed could be derived with a bit of info.
Technically, if the rider was going 100 MPH and the Truck was going 70 MPH, the rider hit the truck at the force of 30 MPH.

The car that hit him might have been doing 70 MPH when his body was bounced into their lane.

Or I could be full of shat!
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:30 PM   #22
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it could be that the car was in a different lane and the rider flew into the cars lane. So the driver could be driving at a completely different speed than the rider was and was just at the wrong place at the wrong time
Other news reports that the car was right behind the bike and couldn't stop in time.

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I was once in an accident, some 22 years ago, when I wasn't paying attention to the cars in front of me. Somebody stopped for a left-hand turn and I hit them. The road had 54' of skid marks that were made by me trying to stop in time. The really sad part is that all of us had just taken off from a light and were going about 35 mph. The cop tried to say I was going much faster (50+), but I could not have been going faster than the speed of the cars in front of me; especially since we were all just stopped at the light.

They don't know everything.

MAYBE:

The truck driver didn't have their lights on.
-I have seen this so many times! And if the lights are dim, too, on that black truck it would have been almost impossible to see at night until you're right up on them. And if the driver had been drinking, it's entirely possible he was going 45 mph and not 70 mph.

The driver of the impala and the biker were racing
- doesn't seem logical that time of night, but it could happen.

The biker couldn't slow/stop in time (when he noticed the truck, or the truck changed lanes in front of him), because his race tires were slick on the wet highway
- When I first started riding, my brakes locked up at a red light and I skidded about half way through the intersection; by that point I just continued through. Scared the out of me and I was lucky that there was very little traffic at that time.

The biker was riding like an asshat, going 100+ on the freeway, weaving in and out of cars, either didn't notice the truck, or truck changed lanes and BOOM. Because he had just cut in front of the impala, the impala was right behind him and couldn't stop in time to keep from running him over.
-This seems to be what the news wants us to believe.

There are so many more scenarios and truthfully, it's so much easier to blame the accident on the guy who won't argue.
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Other news reports that the car was right behind the bike and couldn't stop in time.

We'll never know the truth and you know what they say about assuming:
It makes an out of you and me off!
Pretty much. Just was throwing out another scenario for the OP to think about.
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How does the news know that a "motorcyclist was traveling at 100mph" when they rear ended a truck and killed themselves?

Is it based on a witnesses perception?

I remember one time, while coming home from the forest on 336, a buddy and I were doing about 70-80mph side by side. We stopped at the Shell at 45 and 336 and a Conroe police pulled in a said he got a report that we were "racing" on 336.

I can help but think if one of us had crashed and died that the newspaper would read, "motorcyclist killed while racing on loop 336"

The "news" is completely full of , and speculation. Thats the sad truth.
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I'm sure the cops spoke to the Tacoma driver. What do cops do when they talk to someone that's driving after 2am? They smell your breath for alcohol, especially when there's been a fatality.
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Around 2:30 this morning, eyewitnesses say a motorcycle rider was going 100 miles per hour when he ran into the back of a pickup.
"The news" is reporting what eyewitnesses say, not what a bunch of posters that didn't see say

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"The news" is reporting what eyewitnesses say, not what a bunch of posters that didn't see say

http://abclocal.go.com (link)
Call me a sucker. I dont believe everything I read, and there are no facts to back up an actual speed besides the retarded public that was probably the cause of the accident in the first place.
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The truck driver didn't have their lights on.
-I have seen this so many times! And if the lights are dim, too, on that black truck it would have been almost impossible to see at night until you're right up on them.
OR

The truck guy had his lights on but tinted his taillights like a idiot.
-I have seen this so many times!
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Call me a sucker. I dont believe everything I read, and there are no facts to back up an actual speed besides the retarded public that was probably the cause of the accident in the first place.
1. 290 was shut down for 3 hours, I'm sure that gave police time to talk to every car driver that the rider flew by
2. I ride a sport bike. I ride with other sport bike riders. We've been known to haul . What male owns a sport bike and doesn't ride over 70 mph at 2:30am?
3. Watch the clip to the abc story. The reporter says eyewitnesses estimate the bike was going 100 mph. Either way, he was speeding on a wet highway.
4. Denial is a
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Funny that bikes crash all the time without hitting anything but a ditch. I guess that's a cager's fault too
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If I were an eye witness going 80 mph and a bike flys by me I can pretty accurately guess how fast they were going. Maybe it was 95. Maybe it was 100. Maybe it was 105. Does it really matter? The actual speed does not mean . Bottom line is he was going fast enough to be surprised by someone changing lanes and slamming in to the back of them. ...and he is dead as a result.
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When I worked at power toys I saw the speedometer on a 900rr and it marked 80 mph and the rpm guage was also marking sumthing mabe it froze in moment of inpact that was up.
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For another .02, there's probably going to be a long "investigation" with all kinds of attorneys, insurance co employees, LEOs, paperwork, phone calls and court dates... and more paperwork. I've no idea of the inner workings of these things but I'm willing to bet that somebody somewhere has mucho incentive to fill in blank lines with information at their convenience, for any number of reasons. Maybe the truck driver wanted to get more insurance money; maybe the bystanders just enjoyed being part of the drama; maybe some accident scene investigator just wanted to cut his paperwork short by putting in that the victim was going 100+ in order to skip the real debate over whether the guy was realistically going 67 or 72.


PS - @ Bevo - I ride a f*cking sportbike too, and tend to ride like an old grandma at night ... b/c my headlights suck and I can't see more than 25 ft in front of me... so there's one for ya. But yea I see yer point.
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Yea, well my mom is an old grandma, owns and rides her own Harley, so you'd better slow the down at night too.
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