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Old 12-15-2011, 03:10 PM   #61
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well you could sit in traffic amongst them or split/filter and get home quicker and get away from them quicker.

if filtering was legal or accepted by LEO
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Old 12-15-2011, 03:12 PM   #62
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It does help traffic move faster - quite a bit in fact. Ulric detailed it for you. Keep in mind that when a cager actually does have his head out of his and notices us, he gives us the same space as a car. While it may not dramatically improve it, it does add some improvement - and even if it only benefits the rider, so what? The rider is using far less fuel, making a far lower impact on the future needs of road maintenance. Why should he not gain the benefit of getting to his destination sooner?

It also increases the safety of a competent rider by removing him from the stop and go equation.

Incidentally, yes, in accidents involving a bike and a car, it is almost always the car's fault. That isn't exactly news either.


Are you interested in learning anything, or do you insist upon holding onto your ignorance like a talisman?
Im always interested in learning when someone provides actual evidence and not just opinions on situations or arguments. Is it ignorance on my part because I do not agree with you? If it is, then Pot meet Kettle. Just because you hold true to your opinion of a situation so much you start to believe it to be truth then there is no changing your mind which in return is ignorance in itself. Now yes I believe the concept of lane splitting or "Filtering" for the people that try to make it sound professional, is stupid, I still take in opinions and say yes, it could help saftey in traffic if done leagally and safely but believe it should be done on the shoulder where more room for reaction is available. After that being said there is definitely no chance of offering valid opinions here when the mass here is for something due to their culture or their beliefs and is why Im done with this thread.
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Old 12-15-2011, 03:39 PM   #64
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the shoulder is called the emergancy lane.......

and by going there, you're not utilizing the bike size for an advantage, i can drive an 18whlr down the emergancy lane.

culture change doesn't happen overnight. but w/ advertising and education the masses could be shown the light.

and L/S will not be that big a time saver for cagers becuase bikes take up very little space (BUT every little bit counts) but bikers could be home much sooner, esp. if your in constant bumper to bumper gridlock. the less time you spend in traffic the less chance you have of getting hit in traffic.

really the US/CANADA is the only place where LS isn't legal or common.
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Old 12-15-2011, 03:46 PM   #65
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^ only if henry ford made cheap mass produced motorcycles instead of cheap cars.
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The Autobahn is specifically designed for higher speeds, It is curvy and engaging to avoid "Highway Hypnosis", also to insure it is safe for the high speeds there is roughly twice as much concrete poured making the road twice the thickness. This make it smoother and more resistant to damage and imperfections. Also the Germans are religious about maintaining their road system... (There is a really cool modern marvels episode on it)

But yea, all this could be cleared up with a $2,000-$4,000 drivers license test fee that if you fail you have to pay again...
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and super strict laws and harsh penalties for infractions

blinker light is out, stop and park teh car.

that'll work great over here, w/ 50% not even having ins. on their veh. then there's driving skill. the US drivers have none as an avg.
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^ also bunch of drivers lacking identification including a valid drivers license.
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^ also bunch of drivers lacking identification including a valid drivers license.
Now now - that's racist and elitist. We must accept the standards of their culture which does not require such things....
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and super strict laws and harsh penalties for infractions

blinker light is out, stop and park teh car.

that'll work great over here, w/ 50% not even having ins. on their veh. then there's driving skill. the US drivers have none as an avg.
Can't forget more than fifty years of social development and organization premised on cheap gas and cheap cars.
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haha I love it when this happens, serves im right, lane splitting is just a dumb idea all together

disagree. Its only stupid cagers who try to block you that are dumb
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the shoulder is called the emergancy lane.......

and by going there, you're not utilizing the bike size for an advantage, i can drive an 18whlr down the emergancy lane.

culture change doesn't happen overnight. but w/ advertising and education the masses could be shown the light.

and L/S will not be that big a time saver for cagers becuase bikes take up very little space (BUT every little bit counts) but bikers could be home much sooner, esp. if your in constant bumper to bumper gridlock. the less time you spend in traffic the less chance you have of getting hit in traffic.

really the US/CANADA is the only place where LS isn't legal or common.


It was pretty common in Cali. Did it all the time, everywhere I went .
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well you could sit in traffic amongst them or split/filter and get home quicker and get away from them quicker.

if filtering was legal or accepted by LEO

I followed a CHP moto-cop from Santa Barbera to Ventura on Hwy 101 in gridlocked traffic nitemare. He waved me in to follow him!! Nice cop..
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if it wasnt legal, this probably wouldnt happen
Didn't that van make an ilegal lane change??

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guys, I also think lane splitting or filtering is unsafe and should not be legal, also perry will and I repeat WILL VETO the law if it ever gets out of comittee. I know you think you are making what is to you valid argument for the behavior but the reality of it is that most legilatures do not believe the argument of lessening traffic, the see it as an entitlement to a class of vehicle, there are not safety reasons that have been shown to be valid and as they are told that modern motorcycles have a radiator and do not over heat in stop and go traffic so there goes the overheating and vehicle damage claims. yes I understand that not all bike have a liquid cooled motor but alot of the legislature doesn't and they really don't care.
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modern motorcycles have a radiator and do not over heat in stop and go traffic so there goes the overheating and vehicle damage claims. yes I understand that not all bike have a liquid cooled motor.
ummm I'm not caring about my bike over heating, it's my in the blistering heat that makes me lane split.




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and no texas isn't a no fault state
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You guys call that lane splitting? That's just riding the line.


This is lane splitting ................ GREEKS!!! This IS SPARTA !!!

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